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Since you responded to my direct question, I wanted to respond back to you specifically. icon_smile.gif

I appreciate your honesty! In your opinion, would you have just left the draping on the second tier off completely? Would that improve the look? 

I would not have put so much draping on there. I probably would have repeated the pattern from the bottom tier on the second tier, or done something a little different (brushed embroidery?) for more variety/impact.
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post #47 of 61
I kept trying to think of what I would do differently, and I think you nailed it with the brush embroidery!
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post #48 of 61
I think it's a gorgeous cake. I even love the second tier, which is vaguely reminiscent of a petticoat (through my eyes, anyway) and not in a negative way. I would have been thrilled with it, as I'm sure your customer was.

The internet has always been home to trolls, and the advent of social media has made them unafraid of attaching their names to the piles of excrement they leave sitting around the web (in the form of "comments").

There is also something weird going on in society now where people describe themselves in ways such as "I'm naturally blunt and I always have to say what's on my mind," as though lack of social graces is acceptable and even desirable.
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I think it's a gorgeous cake. I even love the second tier, which is vaguely reminiscent of a petticoat (through my eyes, anyway) and not in a negative way. I would have been thrilled with it, as I'm sure your customer was.

The internet has always been home to trolls, and the advent of social media has made them unafraid of attaching their names to the piles of excrement they leave sitting around the web (in the form of "comments").

There is also something weird going on in society now where people describe themselves in ways such as "I'm naturally blunt and I always have to say what's on my mind," as though lack of social graces is acceptable and even desirable.

LOL, this is SO true! I am constantly amazed at what comes out of people's mouths these days! 

Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement! icon_biggrin.gif

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post #50 of 61
While it may be rude to some to be blunt and tell the truth, I think it is rude to lie. Obviously you don't have to say something is ugly and be rude about it, but it is perfectly acceptable to say it is not your preference, you don't have to gush about something you hate, to he polite.

And this doesn't apply to the op's cake, but I think that when someone shows off a horrible cake that is as poorly done as it is ugly, and people gush about it, that is even more rude than saying it is ugly. Not telling at least a portion of the truth leads to some very unhappy brides and ruined parties, wasted money, and defeat. Falsely saying wrecks are fabulous doesn't do any favors at all. (Once again, this doesn't apply to the cake in this thread, it is skillful, just not my preference. )
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post #51 of 61

IIf everyone liked your art 100% of the time, I'd think you weren't pushing the creativity envelope at all.  The cake is beautiful.  Try to have enough confidence that a periodic negative comment is not bothersome.  If you want to acknowledge the comment, skip asking what they don't like about it (I would instantly lose faith in any vendor who shows signs of being defensive or argumentative); instead, simply say something like, "We certainly understand that each bride has her/his own sense of style and we are more than happy to accommodate each of you.  You can see other cakes at insertyourwebsite.com."

 

It's not personal.  It's a simple difference in preference.  Brush it off.  :)

 

post #52 of 61
I agree, this diarrhea of the mouth is getting to be everywhere. It's not open season for criticism on anything you come across. I think it's attention seeking behavior when people do stuff like that. "omg Brittney, like did you just say thalike say thaaaaat?" "Yeaaaah, you know me, tee hee, I have no filter!" "omg you guys LOOK what she said!"

And it's definitely not just teens or ignorant youth. It's previously isolated people who have a brand new way to make online friends and act like jerks because it's anonymous in a way.
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post #53 of 61
And false praise doesn't do any good either, I agree. I think we have all seen some facebook pages full of that from well meaning family and friends, when anothet decorator would be.encouraging that page to take some lessons and maybe a business class or two. It only takes a few inappropriate "amaaaaaaazing, you should be on Cake Boss" comments to encourage someone to open shop and fall on their face. That's sad.
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post #54 of 61

I'm guessing this person didn't have the time or didn't care to take the time to explain why they didn't like the cake.  It was rude.  It's easy to misunderstand the message someone has written with out the expressions and tone of voice.  With this, I will try to be careful how I word this. 

 

I want to say up front you are very talented.  I will have to take the time to see if you have other work posted.  I will admit, my personal taste, I don't like the cake.  The green is too dark.  I can't seem to put my finger on it but there is something about the drapery.  I do love the bow.  I think it would have worked better to put the large drapery on the bottom layer and eliminate the ruffle coming from the top of the drape.  The drape on the second layer maybe narrow it and allow more crease. 

 

Now, I have to be very honest with you here.  This cake is unique there are going to be people out there that will love it.  But, I don't think the majority will and that will be a reflection on your work.  It's good to have a picture of a cake that is out of the box (pardon the pun) that shows you can do something for the bride out of the ordinary.  Then again you want to have one that will attract the taste of the majority.  This can be hard.

 

Going back to the color.  I ordered colored fondant for my Grand-daughters Baptism cake. Wow, it was a dark, dark, pink.  I mixed with white and lightened it but it was still too dark.  With no time, I had to use it.  The cake was beautiful but when my daughter walked into the hall she said;  "Wow, that's really pink".  I was pleased with my work so I couldn't dwell on the color.

 

A note on individual vision.  I can see the frame of a house, nothing but 2 x 4's and see how the house will look finished.  Others will only see wood nailed together.  If I was a bride looking at this cake I would see the talent and have the vision of what it would look like with a few changes.  But, so many can't.

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post #55 of 61
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I can appreciate that not everyone has the same taste and will like the same things. This cake was actually a display cake I did to showcase some different techniques. Not that it matters, but I chose the color because I knew the Pantone "Color of the Year" was Emerald, so I was going for a deep, jewel tone green. I know a bold color for the background of the cake (Instead of doing white as the background with colored decorations) is not as universally liked or traditional, that's why I did it! To do something different. 

 

It's ok, it's been a week, and I'm over it, I promise! icon_wink.gif I was just kind of surprised initially because of the place she chose to post the comment (on an advertisement of our business for a bridal show). Like I said, I'm working on the thick skin thing, be patient with me please! icon_smile.gif

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post #56 of 61
I have noticed the horrible way people talk to each other. Just because it is over the internet and they feel they are safe doing so. There is a way of being honest without being mean about it. I am a very honest person, if I don't like something, I will let you know. However, there is a line between, "That isn't my personal taste." and "That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen." Maybe it is my mother teaching me manners when I was growing up or maybe it was being raised in the south where manners and waving to neighbors as you drive down the road are prevalent, but I was always taught you can catch more flies with honey. It gets you nowhere to be a sourpuss.
post #57 of 61
First of all I don't think you should let other people's comments define you as a baker/cake decorator overall. If you think about it there is not one field of work whether it be cakes, food, clothes, shoes etc. where everything is done perfectly all the time. Second if you put things out in the public for people to view and comment on throw your expectations out the window people will comment as they see fit and their words are not always "seasoned with salt" but that is their opinion only and they don't speak for everyone. From the looks of your cake you've obviously put forth a lot of effort in developing your skills in certain areas, I think your actual cakes are great as they are at perfectly leveled heights, very neatly stacked, covering of your cakes is beautiful and your piping is great as well. You may just need to spend more time practing your draping skills or decorating skills, I find as a baker/cake decorator you always have room to learn and grow as there always new and exciting techniques to venture into. I'm not going to comment on the color of your fondant because that is not the problem, suppose you get a client who wants that color green or maybe they want some other color that is not to your liking, if that's what the client wants that's what they get your job is to make it work and turn it into something beautiful regardless of the color they choose. How did you feel when you finished your cake? Were you pleased with the outcome? I would like to advise you to listen to your feelings and your gut instincts as that's usually a clue that something is wrong, you mentioned that your fondant wasn't cooperating with you that day and that to me would be the first sign that things are not going to go as planned and when that happens you need to reevaluate what you are doing and come up with a plan B. If your design is not working as you want you need to revise what you are doing so that the finished product represents you in a good way that you feel proud of no matter what anyone says. If there is something off with my cakes whether it be during the baking process or decorating I would fix it no matter what because it's ultimately my name and my reputation on any product that goes out. You are very talented and have more "good" things than bad going on with this cake so don't let it get you down just take it in stride and improve on what you didn't like. If it's bothering you that much do the cake over to your liking and then have it reposted otherwise just let it go.
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post #58 of 61
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First of all I don't think you should let other people's comments define you as a baker/cake decorator overall. If you think about it there is not one field of work whether it be cakes, food, clothes, shoes etc. where everything is done perfectly all the time. Second if you put things out in the public for people to view and comment on throw your expectations out the window people will comment as they see fit and their words are not always "seasoned with salt" but that is their opinion only and they don't speak for everyone. From the looks of your cake you've obviously put forth a lot of effort in developing your skills in certain areas, I think your actual cakes are great as they are at perfectly leveled heights, very neatly stacked, covering of your cakes is beautiful and your piping is great as well. You may just need to spend more time practing your draping skills or decorating skills, I find as a baker/cake decorator you always have room to learn and grow as there always new and exciting techniques to venture into. I'm not going to comment on the color of your fondant because that is not the problem, suppose you get a client who wants that color green or maybe they want some other color that is not to your liking, if that's what the client wants that's what they get your job is to make it work and turn it into something beautiful regardless of the color they choose. How did you feel when you finished your cake? Were you pleased with the outcome? I would like to advise you to listen to your feelings and your gut instincts as that's usually a clue that something is wrong, you mentioned that your fondant wasn't cooperating with you that day and that to me would be the first sign that things are not going to go as planned and when that happens you need to reevaluate what you are doing and come up with a plan B. If your design is not working as you want you need to revise what you are doing so that the finished product represents you in a good way that you feel proud of no matter what anyone says. If there is something off with my cakes whether it be during the baking process or decorating I would fix it no matter what because it's ultimately my name and my reputation on any product that goes out. You are very talented and have more "good" things than bad going on with this cake so don't let it get you down just take it in stride and improve on what you didn't like. If it's bothering you that much do the cake over to your liking and then have it reposted otherwise just let it go.

Like I said above, I'm over it. It was a gut reaction to the comment. I've moved on from the initial hurt reaction I had. I personally loved the cake when I was done with it, and I still do, despite what everyone has said. 

I will agree that I need improvement in certain areas, always! I always want to be improving and never settle. But overall I was happy with this cake and design. icon_smile.gif

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post #59 of 61
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Here's the "ugly" cake

They obviously have no taste...that is a gorgeous cake!

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Thank you! icon_smile.gif

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