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post #31 of 61
I know it's tough not to let them bother you; I see what I feel to be the best cake of my carreer thus far slated on pintrest at times (http://cakecentral.com/g/i/2400199/a/2401199/) and it really bugs me for a while... but then I and my wife (the customer lol) both loved it and that's all that matters in the end right :-)
post #32 of 61

OP...the 'ugly' comment was not directed personally at you...though it does feel like it I'm sure.  The person who wrote it just didn't care for your design.  I'm sure there were others who didn't love it either only they had the good taste to keep it to themselves.  You have to remember that art is very subjective, and when you put work out there for the public to view, not everyone will see the hard work behind it.   They only see the end product which may or may not strike a note with them. 

 

  Isn't it funny how we start second-guessing ourselves as the result of one little mean remark made by someone we'll probably never meet? 

 

While comments like that are not appreciated at the time, I tend to look at them as a reality check.  If we get nothing but positive feedback from everyone, how will we know to get better?  Maybe that person saw something that you didn't notice or overlooked!  Tell the truth, once you saw that comment didn't you start scrutinizing your cake to see what they could be talking about?  And didn't you start noticing things?  Others pointed some improvements out and you agreed with them.    So all in all, this mean little comment can actually be a positive for you in the long run.    You just have to remember it's not personally directed at you. 

 

Any artist worth his salt has been slammed by critics at some point.  So congratulations!  You're on your way!thumbs_up.gif

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post #33 of 61

I'm sensitive as well and something like this would really bother me but you have to take it for what it is. Nothing you make is going to please everyone. It isn't my taste but it is not even close to ugly. Maybe they have a big aversion to green, or ruffles, etc. It isn't personal at all. Saying it is ugly was rude but it just boils down to it not being their preferred style. 

post #34 of 61

I just had a huge feature done about my cakes on SF Gate, which was picked up in over 20 different online newspapers nationwide.  I was over the MOON that they chose 30 or so of my past wedding cakes!

 

A few days after it went live I started getting some of the most horrible comments you could imagine, from people calling them ugly, to "cake wrecks", one lady posting that churros are a better option for weddings, one person said the brides that ordered my cakes must be bridezillas, on and on.  In 20 comments I had only one positive.  I was in tears, questioning my abilities and designs, freaked out and emailed the editors asking if it was normal to have so much negativity.

 

They responded letting me know the gallery had been viewed over 200,000 times.  In those 200,000, only 21 people felt compelled to leave a comment and the people that DO leave those types of comments are generally trolls and people that don't have anything nice to say about ANYTHING.

 

And then I remembered last year when a blogger decided to post an Erica O'Brian cake on their blog.  It was a very popular cake on Pinterest, a cake that's on a million bride's inspiration boards and even ran in Brides Magazine... saying it looked like rolls of toilet paper.  Bottom line, there is always at least one hater, no matter how flawless the cake.

 

I wouldn't worry about it, and do NOT respond.  It's someone's personal taste and isn't open to debate, so you win nothing except looking unprofessional by responding.

 

Good luck! 

post #35 of 61

It was unkind of them to comment in that way when no criticism was asked for.

 

I think you have a beautiful covering on the cakes and I love the design on the bottom tier.

 

However, the other drapes/frills are not to my taste.  And, my personal taste is for paler wedding cakes (but that's just my preference!!)

 

 

Perhaps what the person on FB meant, in not quite so tactful or eloquent of ways is that it's simply not to their taste?  I've seen many, many cakes which are not to my taste, although I certainly appreciate the work and talent that's gone into them.

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post #36 of 61
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I know it's tough not to let them bother you; I see what I feel to be the best cake of my carreer thus far slated on pintrest at times (http://cakecentral.com/g/i/2400199/a/2401199/) and it really bugs me for a while... but then I and my wife (the customer lol) both loved it and that's all that matters in the end right :-)


Seriously?  icon_eek.gif  I LOVE that cake!!!!!

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post #37 of 61

I actually really like that cake! I'm a green lover and the draping is very pretty. Now, I've not worked with draping before to know any flaws with it like others were pointing out, but just as an inexperienced observer I like it!

 

I'm a sensitive person as well, and a comment like that would really get to me, too. People can be so inconsiderate online and don't think of how what they say can affect another person.

 

Great job on a beautiful cake!
 

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post #38 of 61

seriously, don't sweat it. everyone's taste is different. hopefully, the organizer will remove the comment because it's not helpful in any way. 

post #39 of 61
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OP...the 'ugly' comment was not directed personally at you...though it does feel like it I'm sure.  The person who wrote it just didn't care for your design.  I'm sure there were others who didn't love it either only they had the good taste to keep it to themselves.  You have to remember that art is very subjective, and when you put work out there for the public to view, not everyone will see the hard work behind it.   They only see the end product which may or may not strike a note with them. 

 

  Isn't it funny how we start second-guessing ourselves as the result of one little mean remark made by someone we'll probably never meet? 

 

While comments like that are not appreciated at the time, I tend to look at them as a reality check.  If we get nothing but positive feedback from everyone, how will we know to get better?  Maybe that person saw something that you didn't notice or overlooked!  Tell the truth, once you saw that comment didn't you start scrutinizing your cake to see what they could be talking about?  And didn't you start noticing things?  Others pointed some improvements out and you agreed with them.    So all in all, this mean little comment can actually be a positive for you in the long run.    You just have to remember it's not personally directed at you. 

 

Any artist worth his salt has been slammed by critics at some point.  So congratulations!  You're on your way!thumbs_up.gif

Thank you, Carmijok, that's very true, and I am really trying to look at it as a learning/growing experience! I'm actually extremely insecure, especially when it comes to putting my work out there for everyone to see, so it certainly stings a little when you get a response like that. 

Haha, I don't consider myself an artist, but that's good to know! :) 

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I just had a huge feature done about my cakes on SF Gate, which was picked up in over 20 different online newspapers nationwide.  I was over the MOON that they chose 30 or so of my past wedding cakes!

 

A few days after it went live I started getting some of the most horrible comments you could imagine, from people calling them ugly, to "cake wrecks", one lady posting that churros are a better option for weddings, one person said the brides that ordered my cakes must be bridezillas, on and on.  In 20 comments I had only one positive.  I was in tears, questioning my abilities and designs, freaked out and emailed the editors asking if it was normal to have so much negativity.

 

They responded letting me know the gallery had been viewed over 200,000 times.  In those 200,000, only 21 people felt compelled to leave a comment and the people that DO leave those types of comments are generally trolls and people that don't have anything nice to say about ANYTHING.

 

And then I remembered last year when a blogger decided to post an Erica O'Brian cake on their blog.  It was a very popular cake on Pinterest, a cake that's on a million bride's inspiration boards and even ran in Brides Magazine... saying it looked like rolls of toilet paper.  Bottom line, there is always at least one hater, no matter how flawless the cake.

 

I wouldn't worry about it, and do NOT respond.  It's someone's personal taste and isn't open to debate, so you win nothing except looking unprofessional by responding.

 

Good luck! 

FromScratch- Wow, you are one of my cake design heroes, your cakes are amazing! I don't know what is wrong with those people! But you're right, some people just feel the need to be negative! 

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I actually really like that cake! I'm a green lover and the draping is very pretty. Now, I've not worked with draping before to know any flaws with it like others were pointing out, but just as an inexperienced observer I like it!

 

I'm a sensitive person as well, and a comment like that would really get to me, too. People can be so inconsiderate online and don't think of how what they say can affect another person.

 

Great job on a beautiful cake!
 

Thank you! I'm glad someone likes it! So far pretty much everyone has said it's not their taste, so I guess it's just not going to be a winner overall. icon_wink.gif

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post #40 of 61
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It was unkind of them to comment in that way when no criticism was asked for.

 

 

 

If folks believe this then I would suggest refraining from having images of your work published in public forums.  In the case of the OP and the case FromScratch describes the images were included in a format that enabled viewers to leave comments.  It is simply naive to think that this function is limited to comments that praise your work and tell you how great it is.  These formats afford the opportunity for people to provide their thoughts--comments like the one described by the OP may violate someone's sense of propriety, then again it is a public forum and people will share the views when invited to do so.  If all you want is people telling you how great your is don't put them on a forum that affords the general public--particularly under the cover of anonymity--to comment on your work.  You are most certainly inviting the possibility for criticism (positive or negative) when your work is able to be commented on.

post #41 of 61

Very true: if you don't want negative comments, you probably shouldn't be publishing pictures of your cakes anywhere that invites comments. Consider cartoonist Brooke McEldowney ("9 Chickweed Lane" and "Pibgorn"). He got tired enough of dealing with a proverbial peanut gallery that he finally had GoComics disable comments on his pages.

 

Somewhat analogous situation: I've been working on a novel, off and on, for many years. When I had a complete (but unpolished) draft, I signed up for a novel workshop class at the local junior college (having previously taken the short story workshop class for four semesters). To say that the class's reaction to my first few chapters was harrowing would be putting it mildly. It turned out that they were a veritable minefield of "misread-bait," and that virtually every "protagonist kisses baby" passage was being misread as "protagonist kicks dog." But it made me a better, more discerning writer, and made my protagonist much less of a spoiled brat.

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post #42 of 61

I don't think anyone is naive enough to actually think having a publicly published photo means you will never receive negative feedback. Doesn't mean you have to like it though, lol.

I've been lucky, (I also publish very little of my work), but every time I get a FB notification I have this moment of, "omg someone has said something bad!" haha

 

I just don't understand the mindset behind trolling, I don't expect it to stop magically for my cakes though.

post #43 of 61
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I don't think anyone is naive enough to actually think having a publicly published photo means you will never receive negative feedback. Doesn't mean you have to like it though, lol.

I've been lucky, (I also publish very little of my work), but every time I get a FB notification I have this moment of, "omg someone has said something bad!" haha

 

I just don't understand the mindset behind trolling, I don't expect it to stop magically for my cakes though.


Trolls just like to stir the waters and cause controversy.  They are on here all the time.  Always 'newbies' that just happened to have joined CC that day usually!

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post #44 of 61

It may be the color... for some people, it's just not a good color for cake and it's not an indictment on your abilities as a cake designer, it's just personal preference. Calling it "ugly" is rude and not needed, but I see nothing wrong with someone saying there's just something unappealing about it.

I had a 5 tiered spiral wedding cake back a few months ago that I got rave reviews on -- it was kind of a Mario-inspired design, with hundreds of pyramid blocks...16 hours just in making those blocks.....ugh... but I digress....) Anyway, the cake color scheme matched the wedding colors of this same shade of green, and orange, with white block pyramids. The cake was arranged in a spiral, offset way, with alternating tiers of orange and green.

 

The bride loved it. The mother of the bride called to tell me a few days later that it was the hit of the reception.

 

Meanwhile I had to bite my tongue because I HATED that cake. I hated the color scheme. I hated the alternating colors. I hated the spiral setup. And I HATed the little itty bitty squares that had me bent over for 16 hours.

 

It just wasn't my thing. I found it unappealing.

 

But the client loved it, and her guests loved it. So that's all that matters. It won't be going on the front of my portfolio book because *I* don't want to keep staring at it, like I do some of my other cakes, but there will be someone, someday who sees a photo of that cake and it will be the PERFECT cake for them.

 

And then I can refer them out to someone else to do it, because I don't want to spend 16 hours cutting and applying little squares ever again. I find THAT unappealing, too. :)

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post #45 of 61

I think it's a beautiful cake :) A coworker of my husband said he thought my buttercream was too sweet (not knowing I had baked it) and I began to second guess EVERYTHING about what I bake, even though he loved the cupcake itself and most people who have had them love them. It's frustrating when self doubt takes over :) but that's social media for you. everyone has an opinion.

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