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post #1 of 34
7/7/10 at 7:33pm
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I decided to take the cookie plunge this week. I baked my cookies and mixed up the icing for them. I used Antonia's recipe. So I put the icing in a tupperware container and was going to let it sit for 24 hours like she suggested to let the air bubbles work their way out. Hubby and I went out for dinner and when I came back, I noticed I was able to get more air out of the container. I thought it was from the bubbles rising and popping. Then I noticed I could see through the container and it looked like the icing was separating.

Is it because I put it in a tupperware container instead of a metal bowl with a damp paper towel on top?
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post #2 of 34
7/7/10 at 7:38pm
Was it a new tupperware container....or dedicated to royal icing?
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post #3 of 34
7/7/10 at 7:52pm
Separating is normal for Antonia's icing. Just re whip it again before you use it, it will be fine. I use it all the time, I love it.
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post #4 of 34
7/7/10 at 9:10pm
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It was not a new tupperware container. Clean from the dishwasher, but not new. But I'm glad to hear the separating is normal.

Mattie1: do you ever flavor yours? I tasted a bit before I stored it and I wasn't too wild about the flavor.
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post #5 of 34
7/7/10 at 9:21pm
Separating is normal, and the flavor of the wet icing always seems a little off to me... but once dry, you're golden! Have fun!!!
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post #6 of 34
7/7/10 at 10:44pm
Yes, you need to flavor the icing. I have seen Antonia74 say that her meringue powder comes vanilla-flavored, so the icing recipe doesn't call for flavoring. It's pretty bland if you don't add any. (Don't ask me how I know that!)
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post #7 of 34
7/8/10 at 3:20am
I use Antonia74's RI and mine does separate, especially if you are heavy handed on the color. As mentioned, just remix and you are good to go. icon_smile.gif

I flavor mine with all-natural flavorings and extracts from Spices Etc. after trying to find a great all-natural coconut flavoring and saw that Cook's Illustrated rated theirs the best one. I tried it and was thrilled. I have also used and liked Lime, Orange, Cherry, Lemon, Pumpkin Pie Spice, Two Fold Vanilla, Raspberry and I love, love, love their Clear Vanilla. It is perfect for when I need a flavoring in my RI that will not compete with the cookie flavor or when I am doing white or a light colored RI (no color tint as with normal vanilla).

If you need it, here is a link to the page on their all-natural flavorings and extracts:

www.spicesetc.com/category/Natural-Flavorings/a

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Choose the one code that applies to you or what you want and enter it at the beginning of checkout and then continue on.

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This is my trick for great tasting RI and I get a lot of compliments on it. thumbs_up.gif I also use it in the dough (I do a modified NFSC) and it is fun to play with combining the flavors, one in the dough and a different one in the RI. It has added a whole new dimension to my flavor options. I am trying to develop a great chocolate cookie dough recipe and once I do, I will pair that with Raspberry in the RI. They do have a chocolate extract, so I will be ordering that next to try in the dough and likely add some Coffee to enhance the chocolate flavor. I am a big fan of their products.
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post #8 of 34
7/8/10 at 3:49am
TracyLH, thanks for the info on the flavorings.
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post #9 of 34
7/8/10 at 5:33am
Ditto to everything Tracy said.

I use a modified version of Antonia74's RI (I'll be forever grateful to her for sharign that recipe!) - I add natural flavoring from Spices, Etc. and some corn syrup. Mine doesn't separate either (not more than a brief stir to eliminate air bubble will take care of, that is), unless it's been a few days that it's been sitting there.

And the tupperware shouldn't be a problem - I store mine in glad plastic containers that seal closed, like tupperware (but less expensive). I never store in a bowl with a wet towel over it.

Don't give up! once you get the right recipes and a feel for the consistency, you'll be cookie obsessed!
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post #10 of 34
7/8/10 at 6:06am
Happy to have helped! icon_smile.gif I get rave reviews and it has really made a increased substantially my flavor choices.

Oh, for bubbles, I mix and do a tappity-tappity tap on the counter. Cover it with saran, walk away for a bit and tappity-tap again. I do this until I feel that I am bubble free. For the very last step, I run my spatula across the surface to break up any bubbles right on the verge of breaking and am good to go.
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post #11 of 34
7/8/10 at 8:14am
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Tracy how generous of you! Thank you so much! I think I have that spices website bookmarked. I seem to remember browsing for a long time through a website that had all sorts of spices and extracts. I could spend all day in a store like that. When I mentioned flavoring I was just thinking of vanilla, but now that you mentioned lemon. . . that sounds yummy.

Glad to hear that the frosting isn't completely ruined. Though I think from now on I might stick with a metal bowl just to be safe.

The meringue powder I used was Wilton's. Does anyone know if that's already vanilla flavored?


And I just have to say it again, I love CC! So many wonderful, generous, smart, great people here. I'm always leery of just doing a google search for something. Nice to know I can come here and ask people that share a passion with me.
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post #12 of 34
7/8/10 at 11:57am
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Update: I just made another batch with a tsp of vanilla and a tsp of lemon and YUMMY!!!! I like mixing lemon and vanilla because it's not too tart then. I can't wait to try this on cookies now! I'l post pics wether they turn out pretty or not.
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Check out my buttercream rose tutorial!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGa5j46Z05c
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post #13 of 34
7/8/10 at 12:17pm
ok guys where do I get Antonia74's recipe??
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post #14 of 34
7/8/10 at 12:20pm
it's in the recipe section, but here's a link

Antonia74 http://cakecentral.com/recipes/1983/antonia74-royal-icing
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post #15 of 34
7/8/10 at 5:19pm
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Update: I just made another batch with a tsp of vanilla and a tsp of lemon and YUMMY!!!!



Rose_N_Crantz - Hurray!!! Antonia74's recipe is great and now that you have the flavoring along the lines of what you want, you are all set! thumbs_up.gif

I steer away from plastic bowls as they can sometimes retain previous flavors. I use metal or glass usually and sometimes ceramic, but I find that the ceramic can pull out some of the moisture from the RI which actually comes in handy if it is a touch to thin-ish.

CC is a great place to come! It is nice to have others who speak the same language. icon_lol.gif

Good grief! I just re-read one of my previous comments here and see that I need to slow down and proofread! icon_lol.gif Oops!
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