Tcrumb Coat Or Not To Crumb Coat..that Is The Question

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teresadutton Posted 25 Jun 2014 , 9:30pm
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I am doing my first chocolate gauche cake. I am going to whip some to fill the cake and I am going to pour some on top. My question is...I saw somewhere that someone said to crumb coat the cake first with crusting buttercream to give the cake a very smooth finished surface. Do you guys do that or do you just pour the gauche straight onto the cake? Thanks!!

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-K8memphis Posted 25 Jun 2014 , 9:48pm
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yes i'd ice it first myself -- depends on the cake & the result you're after too -- if it was a boston cream pie no i would just pour it on --

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AZCouture Posted 25 Jun 2014 , 9:55pm
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AI wouldn't use buttercream for a ganache cake, I'd ice it with ganache.

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teresadutton Posted 26 Jun 2014 , 2:31am
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 so your saying crumb coat it with the whipped gauche instead of the buttercream? That makes sense I guess. :)

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winniemog Posted 26 Jun 2014 , 8:55am
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AI don't crumb coat ganached cakes, I just apply one layer of ganache to the outside.

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mattyeatscakes Posted 26 Jun 2014 , 4:48pm
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ATo be honest, i've never crumb coated a cake, esp when i cover it with fondant. I make sure my first layer of SMBC is smooth and relatively thick. So far never had a problem. *knock on wood*

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maybenot Posted 26 Jun 2014 , 9:56pm
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I crumb coat all of my cakes because I allow them to settle afterward at room temp--overnight, if possible.  This allows any bumps and bubbles to show and I can rectify those before the final icing coat.

 

With a GANACHE ["gauche" is French word for left and in English it means unsophisticated] covered cake, I'd crumb coat and finish coat in ganache.

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hbquikcomjamesl Posted 26 Jun 2014 , 10:51pm
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Well, if it really is a "gauche" cake, then maybe it would be best to specifically avoid crumb-coating it. :D

 

GAUCHE: lacking social polish.

GANACHE: a glaze made of chocolate and cream.

GOUACHE: opaque watercolor paint.

 

On a more serious note, I've never crumb-coated a cake, at least not successfully, because my BC tends to run so stiff that if I were to apply it thin enough for a crumb-coat, it would rip the top of the cake apart, which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

 

I'd like to remedy that, but I'm having a great deal of trouble figuring out how I'd go about doing that, without having all the frosting so loose, it would never crust.

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maybenot Posted 27 Jun 2014 , 12:13am
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Originally Posted by hbquikcomjamesl 
On a more serious note, I've never crumb-coated a cake, at least not successfully, because my BC tends to run so stiff that if I were to apply it thin enough for a crumb-coat, it would rip the top of the cake apart, which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

 

I'd like to remedy that, but I'm having a great deal of trouble figuring out how I'd go about doing that, without having all the frosting so loose, it would never crust.

 

Divide your stiff BC, 1/3 + 2/3.  Take the 1/3 and add a little liquid to it.  I prefer heavy cream, but others use milk or water.  If the 1/3 is about a cup, try adding a teaspoon at a time.  I doubt that you'd need more than 2 tsp.

 

You can leave the final coat pretty stiff, but even if you thin it a little so that it spreads easier, it'll still crust.  Again, just a teaspoon of liquid can really improve the consistency without stopping crusting.

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