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post #1 of 52
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I don't have a licensed business but I do A LOT of highly decorated cakes on the side.  I have my very first bridal order and I need to quote a price.  My prices for a birthday cake are well below what a bakery would charge so I have no idea where to start.  The bride wants a 3 layer cake covered in the very popular buttercream roses.  Not your traditional rose, the swirl rose made with M1 tip. Super easy.  However, the groom's cake will be a life-sized 3D duck sitting on top of a log.  That will consist of carving a several layer cake, covering in ganache/fondant and probably painting and blending feathers.  (for a duck hunter).  What in the world kind of price do I put on that?!

Thanks!

post #2 of 52

The only way to figure out your price is to add up ingredients and supplies, time spent and overhead, such as legal expenses, utilities, gas, etc.

Nobody here can give you a price, everyone's costs are different, you would get people saying anything from $150 to $1500.

 

I'm sure others will say it, but what you are doing is illegal. You should not be selling without a properly licensed business, you could get in a lot of trouble.

Also, undercutting local businesses is not a very nice thing to do.

post #3 of 52
Thread Starter 

It's a hobby that has taken off big time.  People love the cakes and I do it to make them happy.  In no way am I trying to 'undercut' a bakery.  I live in the country and it takes an hour to get to a good bakery.  People don't want to drive that.  I am in NO way running a business without a license (I work a 40 hour/week day job to pay my bills).  My cakes are for friends and family, no advertising.  Thank for your advice.

post #4 of 52

I have property in Central (minutes from Pride)..My address is actually "Pride".....There is a good bakery in Central (Sweet Impressions)...another one opening in a couple weeks (Dawn's Sweet Tooth).  A short drive to many good bakeries in Baton Rouge.    Why do you say an hour go get to a good bakery?

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post #5 of 52
If you are not running a business then price should not be a concern. I would ask the recipient of the cake what they would be willing to pay for it, and use that as your price.
post #6 of 52

You state you work a 40 hour a week job to pay bills and you do not advertise, it is all word of mouth so you are not conducting a business.  The definition of a business is receiving something of monetary value for services, whether it be money, or barter.  So you are conducting a business.  Also,  "My prices for a birthday cake are well below what a bakery would charge so I have no idea where to start", your words, so you are selling for under what others charge and therefore hurting a licensed entity, whether it is a licensed or cottage food act business.

 

This said, the way to get your selling price is to add all that scrumdiddlycakes has stated.  Maybe you should see what you need to do to become legal and then you could raise your prices and get more money for your "high end" cakes.

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post #7 of 52
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your advice!!!  It surely seems that this would be more trouble than it's worth to do the cakes.  I'll continue to bake for my kids, parents and siblings.  Thanks!!!

post #8 of 52
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Originally Posted by Cakeprob View Post
 

Thanks for all your advice!!!  It surely seems that this would be more trouble than it's worth to do the cakes.  I'll continue to bake for my kids, parents and siblings.  Thanks!!!

I'm probably the only one on here that doesn't have an issue with the unlicensed, I simply don't care how others choose to run their business and I don't believe in big government making every damn thing their business.

 

With that said, pricing will vary depending on your area and your costs, the time and efforts you put into the cake as well as the design. You need to figure out how much you charge per serving, I know a lot of people charge $5+ per serving on 3D cakes, with a minimum of $200.  Something to think about.  :)  good luck!

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post #9 of 52
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Originally Posted by Paperfishies View Post
 

I'm probably the only one on here that doesn't have an issue with the unlicensed, I simply don't care how others choose to run their business and I don't believe in big government making every damn thing their business.

 

With that said, pricing will vary depending on your area and your costs, the time and efforts you put into the cake as well as the design. You need to figure out how much you charge per serving, I know a lot of people charge $5+ per serving on 3D cakes, with a minimum of $200.  Something to think about.  :)  good luck!

 

Thanks for the kind advice :)  I have no idea about pricing based on slice.  I've clearly stepped into uncharted waters and I now feel terrible.  thanks!

post #10 of 52
FYI, a pretty liberal cottage food law was passed in LA recently:
http://cottagefoods.org/laws/usa/louisiana/
post #11 of 52
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post #12 of 52
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Thanks for the info!  I will say that this wedding cake order was something I thought I could do b/c the bride had an order placed with a bakery for April of 2014 and it is the day before Easter.  That bakery baked out on her b/c of the holiday.  I felt bad and said that I could help.  This is not about making money but it will involve a lot of time, just didn’t know what to expect on a price range.  However, I see that it’s not the thing to do anyway.

post #13 of 52
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Originally Posted by Cakeprob View Post
 

 

Thanks for the kind advice :)  I have no idea about pricing based on slice.  I've clearly stepped into uncharted waters and I now feel terrible.  thanks!

 

Break down your recipes and see how much it costs you to produce each recipe, start there and then figure out how much you want to charge.  Don't feel terrible.

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post #14 of 52

The first three sentences alone should tip off the well-versed of this community that this is a troll post.  GMAB.

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post #15 of 52
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And my last post on this will be this.  According to the link that Mr. Jason posted above, I am fully LEGAL.  I can and have the ability to make, decorate and sell these cakes out of my home, as I please.  So to all of you who said this is ILLEGAL, read the link he posted.  It is sad that someone can’t come on here and just give kind advice rather than throw stones.  For Miss “ddaigle” I will tell you about those two bakeries and WHY no one wants to drive to those bakeries who are local.  First and foremost, Sweet Impressions does NOT have a good reputation for their cakes (their food is great).  I cannot tell you the countless people who have come to me (that have used that bakery) and told me they were NOT happy with their cakes.  I, MYSELF, placed an order with Sweet Impressions (with the Owner, as a matter of fact) over the phone.  I told him everything I wanted (a two tiered cake) and gave him a $25 DEPOSIT over the phone with my debit card (two weeks ahead of time b/c I knew the cake needed time for prep).  On the day of the party, TWO hours before the party, I showed up at his bakery and he had no idea what I was talking about.  He did admit that he forgot about the cake entirely, that he NO cake for me at all BUT that he would make one in that two hour time frame.  It would not be what I ordered but that he would make it.  I got that cake AFTER the party started and it tasted like 100% vegetable shortening.  Yes, that’s my opinion and that’s why I decided that I was tired of paying $200 for a birthday cake.  I decided then that I would make and decorate my own cakes, and I made sure they tasted better.  The rest is history.  THAT, my friend, is why no one will go to the bakery.  Also, the newest Dawn’s bakery is not even open yet.  So no one knows about it, no one has mentioned that they will be going and I sure hope that it is a true asset to Central!  I look forward to tasting their stuff!!!

 

Not a troll J  I’m a true, bonafied person who happens to make some pretty super cute cakes that taste just as good!  It's not my fauilt that I don't have the heart to charge someone $200 for a cake.  I don't want to pay that much for a cake!

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