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post #61 of 86
Wow it really looks beautiful!!
post #62 of 86
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Thanks guys!

Yes I'm dusting before assembling. I put a lot on trying to go heavy then tap the petal on the container to get the rest off. It falls down the petal and gets on the tip. I can wipe it off but I thought there probably was a proper way to do it. Also I should steam before they are put together? Why out of curiosity?

post #63 of 86
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Ya I went a little dot happy on that first one...ya'll were just being kind..lol  Its like a world of difference between the two now if I only had the right dust powder it would have been even better. Don't hold back people that's how I learn.

post #64 of 86

It looks SO good, smitty! I can't wait to see it all put together! :) I don't have a recommendation as to how to keep the color off while your dusting, but maybe this will bump it back up so someone will chime in. I do know that I clean up color residue with vodka and it works really well to take all the color off -- even black.

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post #65 of 86

I hope you're not getting sick of hearing from me - if so, just let me know,  I don't want to be a pain in the butt.

You ARE improving by leaps & bounds

 

Steaming - If you know you're going to touch the dusted part of the petal during assembly, I would steam so you don't accidentally smear it.  When using dark colors, consider dusting in layers instead of trying to achieve the dark color all at once.  Yes, it takes a little longer, but only in the beginning - it is a practice that once you have success, it is automatic.

You certainly can steam after you assemble, just take care.  It's very hard to keep your white edge from picking up the dark pink, but I have to say you've done a pretty great job. 

 

Next step with dots:   Now that you see the difference between your flowers, try to make your dots a tad smaller and just a little more random.  Not an easy task, I assure you.  I have ruined beautiful petals with a slip of the brush - couldn't even fix with vodka.  Not sure about the white dots.  Not loving them yet, but not sure on an alternative method - thinking.....

 

 

Jeanne

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post #66 of 86
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No seriously I never get tired of anyone on here! I love all the help I can get. Chime in anytime. I love the honesty too! I am not easily offended so no worries. I'll try the multiple passes of color next time. I think its one of the harder flowers I have done. Roses and other romantic flowers are easier mainly just because you don't have to make it so dark and the whole no color on the edges. I also think its harder because I have never seen one of these in real life. That makes it less fresh in my mind visually. I agree with the dots needing to be smaller. Next time I go to the cake store I'm gonna look at powders and gels and stock up on the right color just encase I get future orders. That would make my life a LOT easier.

 

Sixinarow - thanks I'll try the vodka out on the edges. Wasn't sure if it would make it more frail or not? Not sure why I thought that...lol

post #67 of 86

I'm almost hesitant to suggest this, for it is a highly charged emotional discussion here on CC.

 

Since gumpaste flowers are not recommended eating and although they are considered non toxic, you might want to try using artist's pastels. I have a set of 72 colors, (non oil based) from which I make my own petal dust. I rub them against a fine mesh tea strainer and keep the collected dust in plastic bead containers from Michael's. Those, combined with a number of commercial dusts, give me a large palette from which to choose. Frankly, I just don't have the funds to afford all the colors I desire.

 

I love watching your progress and have bookmarked this thread for guidance when I attempt my first stargazer. Also just a thought...if you ran a line of egg white along the edge of the petals, would that give you the sharp line, provided your base petal color was white already? I've done it for ivy veins when I want them to stand out white.

 

OK, now I'm going to duck for the barrage I expect will hit. (Only I am in good company with this recommendation  since Scott Clark Woolley suggests the same thing and someone one time here on CC reported that her Wilton instructor taught the same thing, re pastels.)

 

Jan

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post #68 of 86
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I'm almost hesitant to suggest this, for it is a highly charged emotional discussion here on CC.

 

Since gumpaste flowers are not recommended eating and although they are considered non toxic, you might want to try using artist's pastels. I have a set of 72 colors, (non oil based) from which I make my own petal dust. I rub them against a fine mesh tea strainer and keep the collected dust in plastic bead containers from Michael's. Those, combined with a number of commercial dusts, give me a large palette from which to choose. Frankly, I just don't have the funds to afford all the colors I desire.

 

I love watching your progress and have bookmarked this thread for guidance when I attempt my first stargazer. Also just a thought...if you ran a line of egg white along the edge of the petals, would that give you the sharp line, provided your base petal color was white already? I've done it for ivy veins when I want them to stand out white.

 

OK, now I'm going to duck for the barrage I expect will hit. (Only I am in good company with this recommendation  since Scott Clark Woolley suggests the same thing and someone one time here on CC reported that her Wilton instructor taught the same thing, re pastels.)

 

Jan

 

Jan, why would you think this is a highly charged thread.  IMO, a very productive thread that we've participated in - I went back and even re-read your suggestions on dots - I like that! :)  Egg white is something I will experiment with next time I make a stargazer - thanks

 

Jeanne

post #69 of 86

I think Jan feared the suggestion of using pastel dust on a flower to go on a cake would be likely to draw strong opinions, but I don't think it would be too much of an issue on a flower that clearly nobody will be eating.

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post #70 of 86

Oh heavens, no. I love this thread and think it is one of the more helpful ones I've read/participated in. It is difficult, sometimes, to convey intentions with written text. Kikiandkyle understood what I was trying to say. Thanks for clarifying for me. I just know that there have been several threads over the years that have generated a lot of comment, pro and con re using pastels as petal dust. Too many people take it on as a personal challenge to dump on other's opinions. This thread has been most cordial and informative which is why I have bookmarked it for my future use.

 

Jan

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post #71 of 86
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They say non-toxic most of them anyhow so I don't see why that wouldn't be fine. I will look into that I think that is a great idea! I have never used egg white but I'll try that as well. Do you use the meringue powder or real egg white?

post #72 of 86

I use real egg white, although I no longer have chickens, I am accustomed to the real thing. I always find a way to use the yolks as witnessed by the several packets of various curds in my freezer. I do keep meringue powder on hand for things like flowed sugar and sometimes, royal.

 

Jan

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post #73 of 86
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They say non-toxic most of them anyhow so I don't see why that wouldn't be fine. I will look into that I think that is a great idea! I have never used egg white but I'll try that as well. Do you use the meringue powder or real egg white?

If you are using dusts that are non toxic on gum paste decorations you're fine.  Gum paste although considered edible, is not really palatable.  The second you use a wire - it is a non edible decoration. Crystal Colors are FDA approved and Chef Rubber has a line of FDA approved colors.

 

Jan,  my very first dusts were "homemade" from non toxic chalk.  I learned it from my Wilton instructor years ago.   I still have some in my box. :)

post #74 of 86
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Thanks everyone for your help finally got a picture from the photographer was in such a hurry couldn't take one. The humidity and my buttercream were not friends so I was rushing to work with it best I could.  I edited out the topper as I didn't like it. The picture is also WAY HARSH she didn't know what she was doing and had the flash when the tent was lit brighter than my living room. So I learned my lesson on not taking a picture and forgetting my camera!

I hand made the sugar flowers, anchor and half the shells. Some shells were molded due the tiny size of them. This was a 4,6,8 inch cake. Buttercream Ombre banana flavored cake. Top tier is Key Lime flavored. Thanks for looking!

post #75 of 86

Congratulations of a lovely job.  I hear you about the photographer.  I've been disappointed more than one.

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