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post #16 of 86
You guy's are lucky that you have stores to go to, I have to order EVERYTHING online. Over here it's like a train ride away!! I like your idea Jan about the pringle tubs might try that myself icon_wink.gif
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If you do try the Pringles tubs, I might suggest that you weight them down a little. I put some marbles in the bottom of mine so they won't be so likely to tip over. I also affixed a label to the sides, indicating what size each contains. (I know, I'm an organization freak.:)

 

Jan 

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post #18 of 86
Looool!!! Thanks for the tip x
post #19 of 86
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nobody??? Come on somebody has to have some helpful info.

While I wait I'll share a tip. I didn't have any orange pollen so I just died some sugar orange and mixed in some cornstarch with the sugar during mixing. I think it worked really well. So if you come short of some pollen color make your own.

Also my flower at first was kinda dull...lifeless so I just pushed the flowers towards the stamen and it looked a hundred times better.

Did you get my post?  It also included a link.  I don't understand why it's not \in this thread.

 

Jeanne

post #20 of 86

Found it - it is under your second picture when you open it up.  Here it is anyway:

 

Very beautiful!  Am amazed it's your first!  For your next one try and make the stamen & pistil stems a little thinner.  You might want to consider showing a bit more white near the edges.  The spots on this type of  lily generally do not go to the edge onto the white.  So, just little things for next time but  Wonderful job !!
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Jeanne
 

post #21 of 86

Yay glad you managed to get some! 

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post #22 of 86
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Sorry Jeanne no I didn't get that. Thank you ya I used a pic I found online. The thing is that one shows the petal better. Better dot idea from that one. I also didn't have any petal dust in the right color so I'm having to use vodka and gel colors it was not such a sharp line on the pink as that picture so that looks easier to copy.

 

For your next one try and make the stamen & pistil stems a little thinner.  Ya how do I do that? It seemed to want to come off when rolling.

 

I bought some of the wilton ones we will see if I like those enough or I'll go back to perfecting the wire ones.

Thanks everyone for your help I'll post a pic of the next one I do and see what ya think.

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http://theresawecker.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=120823756

 

This is the pic I went off Jeanne. Is that not a stargazer? I was thinking of doing RI for the dots as they appear to be spikey.

I don't want to do that though if this is totally the wrong flower. lol..

post #24 of 86
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http://theresawecker.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=120823756

 

This is the pic I went off Jeanne. Is that not a stargazer? I was thinking of doing RI for the dots as they appear to be spikey.

I don't want to do that though if this is totally the wrong flower. lol..

That's a good pic to use.  Notice the amount of white around the edges.  What size wire are you using when making the pistil & stamens?  Are you using gum glue or egg white?  Are you making a tiny sausage and inserting the wire or working the paste down the wire?  I'm not a fan of Wilton gum paste (dries to fast).  Nicolas Lodge's paste is perfect for this although I would still mix in some Platinum Paste but that's not necessary.

 

You could try the RI - but you will have to have an extremely light touch -  Remember, the pic you are using is a VERY close up.  I personally would concentrate on painting - just me.    You are doing great :)

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Yep I see the white I thought you meant there wasn't dots on the white..I also didn't notice the detail of dots on other pictures so there for a moment

I thought maybe it was a different breed of lily.. :)

I have no idea the gauge because I bought it off ebay about 3 years ago..lol.. too big. But I'm using a ball shape and rolling it down so maybe that is the problem. Then I make the sausage and poke it on the wire. Maybe I need to start with less gumpaste to begin with? I was using gum glue.

post #26 of 86
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by the way while we are on the subject where do you buy your wires?

Jan you too where do you buy yours and I love the pringles idea. Except my chickens will have to eat the chips..YUCK...lol

post #27 of 86
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Yep I see the white I thought you meant there wasn't dots on the white..I also didn't notice the detail of dots on other pictures so there for a moment

I thought maybe it was a different breed of lily.. :)

I have no idea the gauge because I bought it off ebay about 3 years ago..lol.. too big. But I'm using a ball shape and rolling it down so maybe that is the problem. Then I make the sausage and poke it on the wire. Maybe I need to start with less gumpaste to begin with? I was using gum glue.

 

Just a thought if you're having a hard time rolling the stamens thin, you may want to start with an extruded rope of fondant. I have a tiny clay extruder that has a teeny tiny hole press that would give a really thin rope to start with and then just shape and stick the wire through. maybe that would be easier than trying to roll it thin? If you look at my tagline pics -- the geometric ruffle cake, the black fondant scrolls were made from the extruder and the hole press I used on it wasn't the smallest one. 

I've never tried doing it this way, just a thought!
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post #28 of 86

Gum glue is fine. You have to be very careful with egg white, if you get a tiny bit where it doesn't belong, you will never be able to apply dust there - just won't penetrate the dried egg.

I would use a 26 gage wire for the pistil and a 28 (26 if you're not comfortable with 28)  for the stamens.  Notice how they are tapered and the stamens are thinner than the pistil.  Try and use less paste and work the ends.  keep a little shortening between your fingers to give you a longer working time.   It will take a little practice but given how well you have done with your first, you will achieve it rather quickly. 

 

I buy my wires either at Global Sugar Art or Sugar Delites.  I prefer Sunrise wires. 

post #29 of 86

Smitty, I'm sorry I neglected to caution you about egg white. Thanks, Jeanne for mentioning it. It is a good thing to use, however, if you want to mask an area off and let the base color show through, veins on an ivy for instance. You gave a lot of good tips and encouragement.

 

I get a lot of wire from GSA, (among other places when I'm going to different sites). I'm always comparing and searching for different wire and different colors of floral tape.I have found only one place, though, that carries 33 ga.wire. (I use it for making stamens for alstroemeria). Those I get at www.ahcakedesign.com.

 

I am just getting ready to make some gardenias while mine are still in bloom, but all this talk about stargazers makes me want to make those too. It is like reading recipes when you are hungry!

 

Jan

 

I forgot to mention that it truly was a chore to empty those Pringle cartons. Sadly, I no longer have any chickens since I moved from my farm in Arizona. Boy were they ever handy. All the scraps went to them or the turkeys and I got a good return on them. Anyhow, my grand daughters enjoyed them. (I call them fake food. Yuk.)


Edited by milkmaid42 - 9/20/13 at 5:37pm
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post #30 of 86

I always use my dust dry to colour flowers, it blends much easier. Especially on the line down the middle of the petal, and like Jwinslow is saying, don't take it to the very edge.

So start with a dark line that goes about 3/4 of the way down, then a lighter shade and dust out from that line to about halfway between the line and the edge of the petal, does that make sense? Then you can blend it nicely, it leaves you with the white border and no abrupt lines.

The dots I do when the rest of the colouring is totally finished, and I do that with liquid dust and a toothpick, with just the tiniest bit of the tip snipped off. I'm sure there are better ways, but it works perfectly for me :P
I'd suggest clustering them around the base of the petal and then sort of scattering them out a bit.

 

I actually have a few different tubes/cans/etc glues down to a base that I use for drying petals lite this, all different sizes, works awesome.

 

Is this your first lily? They were way harder for me to get down than any other flower, you did a really good job!

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