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post #1 of 19
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Hello,

 

I've only made 4 'real cakes' so far; 2 for family and 2 for friends. Some of my friends are now inquiring if I would make them cakes for (insert special occasion here). I don't plan on charging a lot, they are my friends after all and I'm not a professional, but these cakes cost me quite a bit and take a ton of time. I need to charge something! I'm not trying to undercut the local baker, but I have fallen in love with cake art and I would be thrilled to create these for my friends and family!

 

I have absolutely no basis for comparison and couldn't say if a local baker would charge $10 or $1000. I just wish I had a vague idea of what others would charge for these cakes. I realize they are far from perfect, and I am just a newbie, but any input would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm sorry the pictures are terrible!

 

1) My little girl's 2nd birthday Pond Cake is the second cake I've ever made.

The pond cake is chocolate bottom and yellow top. BC crumb coat and MM Fondant. Airbrushed. I hand sculpted a bunch of ladybugs, turtle, frog etc. Everything on this cake is edible except for the wire holding up the dragonfly.

 

 

 

 

2) The Beach/Town/Fitness cake is my second. It represents the town we live in - the ocean, water tower and the island people walk around. My friend Alyssa atop is a personal trainer. The beach cake has an 8" devils food cake filled with raspberry filling and white chocolate shavings. Crumb coated with BC, covered in MM fondant and painted waves in BC. The top tier I think must be 4"... It's golden butter filled with lemon, bc crumb and MM fondant covered.

 

 

3) The last for another friend's birthday. Pisces sculpted cake. My forth cake and first sculpted cake.

I don't know how much these fish feed. They were baked in a 12x18 pan. Cut into 4 shapes and stacked them 2 high, then carved. The heads measure about 4 inches high at the peak. They are BC filled, crumb coated and covered in MM. Airbrushed,  gold spray painted. The flowers and dorsal fins are gumpaste. The rest fondant.

 

 

 

 

Thank you!

Renee

Hobbyhoarder

post #2 of 19

No prices to offer, but I will request this: if you want to give your friends and family a break, that's great. But don't let it extend to friends of friends and relatives you wouldn't talk to until they need something. That's when you'll be the undercutter, and will piss off the established businesses. And remember that you said it yourself: they cost you quite a bit, and they took a lot of time. They all cost us quite a bit and they take a lot of time, and that's why we charge a lot. Have fun!

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post #3 of 19

Just so you know, I find it VERY difficult to believe that these are your first cakes.  Fondant application, airbrushing, figure modeling, and cake carving are skills that one acquires over time....sometimes lots of time.  SOOOO either you've practiced a lot on your own before doing these cakes OR you are a cake prodigy.  Or, at the very least, a fairly talented crafter.

 

And you should be charging full price for these.  These are not average cakes.  They are not perfection, but they are pretty darn good.

 

So no price help from me...you should look on local caker's websites with similar skill and get an idea of what they are charging.  Don't copy, but go with what feels like enough for you get the job done.  Time is valuable and you are far from "just practicing."

 

This is meant to be a little snarky, but mostly to serve as an ego-boost, if that's what you are looking for.

 

If you knew me and my sometimes sarcastic personality, you wouldn't take offense or think I am being mean.  I am writing this with a smile on my face, so please take it as such.

 

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post #4 of 19
Very well said Bees!

www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
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post #5 of 19
Wow. I'm no expert (I don't decorate, just bake), but those cakes are incredible for a beginner.
post #6 of 19

i love your cakes and i think you should be in the 'start at $8' a serving for sculptures which the fish are technically 2-d but i mean really 3-d so but they are super well done--such action in there-- i mean they have no structural doweling though so $7 to $8 per serving--

 

but they should garner a minumum of about $200 give or take a few regardless of servings imo

 

the other two cakes are basically two tiers with excellent decor so base price on fondant cakes in your area should be fairly easy to ascertain by checking some websites in the area--you should be in at least the $4 - $5 range--then the green cake could go at $5 per--lots of nice decor but not over the top as far as time goes--then the weight insanity one should have an upcharge for the modeling and the painting--when pricing you might want to give it as one price rather than phrase it the way i did--i said so much plus upcharge just to give you the information--but i'd recommend just saying 'blabla price'

 

i would also recommend that you just over price the regular bakeries/cakeries in your area (unless you are in new york or somewhere extreme) because your work is excellent

 

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there is a certain amount of decor 'granted' with the base per serving price--the certain amount is determined by the amount of time necessary so the weight insanity cake takes a lot more time than the green one--maybe an hour of decor is included give or take--and while it might have taken you much longer due to being new you wouldn't charge for the real length of time at this point you just work at getting faster

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post #7 of 19

you are really good and you are not the first caker to be able to just pick it up and fly sky high

 

nor the first one to be doubted  (ahem...)

 

rare talent but it does happen

 

but i mean you still have the regular learning curves ahead

 

artistry is not one of them ;)

 

wow cool--really really good stuff--how awesome

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post #8 of 19

I say don't ask us, just charge what you want to charge.  

post #9 of 19

renee, your work is beautiful

 

you should consider competing if you like that kind of thing

 

i think there's a big cake thing in maryland or somewhere over east there somewhere every year

 

just a thought

 

you'd be a force to reckon with!

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post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by -K8memphis View Post

you are really good and you are not the first caker to be able to just pick it up and fly sky high

 

nor the first one to be doubted  (ahem...)

 

rare talent but it does happen

 

but i mean you still have the regular learning curves ahead

 

artistry is not one of them ;)

 

wow cool--really really good stuff--how awesome


So very true and I did consider that...I'm just in a sarcastic mood.  They are great and if she is a true newbie...SHOOT FOR THE SKY because she is/is going to be that force to be reckoned with!  Sorry, I should've added that at the end!

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post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by BeesKnees578 View Post

Just so you know, I find it VERY difficult to believe that these are your first cakes.  Fondant application, airbrushing, figure modeling, and cake carving are skills that one acquires over time....sometimes lots of time.  SOOOO either you've practiced a lot on your own before doing these cakes OR you are a cake prodigy.  Or, at the very least, a fairly talented crafter.

 

And you should be charging full price for these.  These are not average cakes.  They are not perfection, but they are pretty darn good.

 

So no price help from me...you should look on local caker's websites with similar skill and get an idea of what they are charging.  Don't copy, but go with what feels like enough for you get the job done.  Time is valuable and you are far from "just practicing."

 

This is meant to be a little snarky, but mostly to serve as an ego-boost, if that's what you are looking for.

 

If you knew me and my sometimes sarcastic personality, you wouldn't take offense or think I am being mean.  I am writing this with a smile on my face, so please take it as such.

 

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Hi and thank you. I take your message as a really, REALLY, HUGE compliment; whether it was meant to be or not!

 

I must admit, I forgot about a pretty poorly decorated cake I made for my hubby's birthday last April, so these could qualify as my 3rd, 4th, and 5th cakes - EVER. I've only made 5 cakes of any kind since January of 2012 and these are it. BUT my big girl's 8th birthday is in a week so expect something funky! She designed her own cake and is officially my FIRST real customer. :) :) I hope I live up to her expectations of rainbow cheetah and blue zebra feathery, blingy, masterpiece!

 

My husband and kids got me the airbrush kit last Mother's Day. I have only used it 3 times and never touched an airbrush before that. (He hates it by the way. The over spray sticks around the house for weeks despite my thorough cleaning and socks and feet turn blue/green/black) I have never sculpted a thing in my life unless you consider playdoh practice with the kids any kind of educational experience. But Briella's pond cake took was about 30 hours of sculpting those dang bugs,  handpainting, airbrushing, pasta shaping. I have never taken a cake class. I just watch a lot of Youtube and have an unnatural ability to teach myself just about anything. And I have a lot of hobbies. As a matter of fact, I just bought a Cricut Cake and used it for the first time tonight! YAY. And I just bought a Canon edible cake printer which should be here any day now. So I would say your 'fairly talented crafter' is quite accurate. You should have seen my hand stamped jewelry making binge over Christmas. :/ 

 

I have a 2 year old and 8 year old so I only have the chance to binge bake once every few months or else my husband would divorce me. 


So yes, perfectionism is my blessed flaw.

 

I realize you didn't ask for my defense but I want to get to know people here who share the same love as me, and eventually be a valuable contributor to this community. I have very little hands-on experience but read alot and have a wealth of knowledge stored in my brain for future creations. And I am in love with creating edible art.

 

Anyway, sorry for the novel!

Renee

Hobbyhoarder

 

This is the cake I made for my dad's birthday last May. It is the first time I ever TOUCHED fondant and 'leveled' a cake . I made homemade MM fondant via a YouTube tutorial. It was the first time I ever used my airbrush. The decor wasn't good but the cake tasted great! The boring and flat 2 dimensional elements made me aspire to do better. I put fondant on it the night before Dad was to fly in... I woke up the next day to it having huge air lumps all over it. I called it the MM Mump Cake.

 

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This is Hubby's cake. Actually this was April so this came before Dad's May cake. It's pretty bad. I have NO IDEA how to pipe and piping intimidates me so much.

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This is the cake I pretty much copied for Renee's Pisces cake.

post #12 of 19
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Thank you AZCouture - I don't EVER intend on doing this professionally. I just want to do it for friends and my family. But as a perfectionist artist, I just can't wrap my head around doing something artistic while not aspiring to do it to the best of my capacity and ability. :)

 

Thank you Mizlila and Norasmom


K8Memphis - Thanks a ton. I love that you love my sun virus pollen blob. *blush*...  I am just north of Boston and we have a baker here in town who was on some cake bake off show (TLC?)... She came in second. One of her employees works as a hygienist at my dentist office and said my pond cake would fetch about $500-$600 at Amanda's Shop, due to all of the hand sculpting. I think she's pretty pr icy for this town but a lot of people I know go there and she has some pretty cool classes I intend to take one day. I would love to one day enter a contest or two. Something about designing a theme and executing it is so friggin exciting to me. Renee's Pisces cake was almost to my vision, except the sun blob, and I would do the fins slightly different if I could go back for a redo. And I would like to try piping gel for water! So thank you for the kind words. I make some pretty cool stuff in the future!

 

Beesknees.... No worries. I appreciate the skepticism. Only one person in the cake world (at my dentist) has ever seen one of my cakes, besides you guys here, now. So any feedback I get is great!

post #13 of 19
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Thank you for the replies. I don't have any intention of ever doing this professionally. I just enjoy being able to offer my personalized talents as gifts. 
 
K8memphis- I just love that you love my sun virus pollen blob cake *blush*. Thank you for all of the info and kind compliments. Once I am a bit more skilled, I would love to eventually enter some cake designing contests but right now, practice time is extremely limited. The theme design and execution makes me so excited, I can't wait to create the next one. I think I have a list of 10 already lined up to try (inspirations from Pinterest).  So hopefully I'll have some cool stuff to share in the near future. Especially with my new Cricut and printer. Again, thank you for your replies. 
 
I am just north of Boston and we have a baker here in my town who appeared and placed 2nd on the Food Network Cake Challenge. One of her decorators moonlights as a dental hygienist in my Dentist office. I showed Doc and assistant Bri's pond cake and they both went running to show the other girl. She told me my cake at Amanda's would fetch about $500-$600 due to all of the hand sculpting and hand painting. With that being said, I think Amanda is quite high for this area. She does offer some pretty extensive decorating classes I one day intend to take though. 
 
I wouldn't waste a local bakers time to get a quote on one of my cakes I don't have any intention of buying... Which is why I came to you guys for pricing. :)
post #14 of 19
Ok, seriously amazing cakes. In dying of jealousy. I've had my KopyCake airbrush for over a year. I've used it twice and didn't like the results either time.

Seriously amazing work.

I'm in Charleston. Oh no baby is coming have to finish when it's my t. Yen for phone again!

www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
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post #15 of 19

I agree that I would be somewhere around $200 for the fish.  

www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
(4 photos)
 
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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
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