Buttercream Rose Disaster - Page 2

The only way that I can make a passable buttercream rose is on a stick, so I can vouch for that being easier than flat. I stick to gumpaste, it's much easier to get a flower instead of a blob that way.

It would be useful to start by making flattish wild roses or pansies until you can make those well. You have to get the hang of moving both the nail and the tip of the bag at the same time.

Then instead of starting with a full sized rose, it might be easier to pipe sweetheart roses.

Tube 103: make one full circle on the nail with the tip vertical (wide end against nail) by rotating the NAIL with fingers, not the tube. Hold the bag with your piping hand and do NOT move it at all.

Then rotate piping hand so tube is at 45 degree angle from vertical. Then add 3 small petals, then 5 more under those. End of ordeal.  Decent small rose to use wherever you need.

For each petal, you have to rotate nail at the same time you loop up/down with piping hand to shape petal.  If you are watching a video, make sure you pay attention to these motions with both hands at the same time.

I keep a box full of parchment squares and a cookie sheet handy.  Nail stays in off hand all the time.  Piping hand slides edge of paper off and then picks bag up again.  Dip nail into box for next flower.

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Originally Posted by remnant3333 

Learn to make them right on to the cake!!! And yes, you need stiffer icing. Look at this stacking and fixing video in the second last half of video and it shows you how to make roses right on top of cake. Also if you are new check out all of her videos and you will learn so much more. Visual learning is always best for me!!! You can practice on top of cupcakes!! Just keep practicing and you will learn!!/Good luck

http://seriouscakes.com/wordpress/?page_id=498

Making them right on the cake is not productive enough for me.  At 93 seconds each on the cake (that's about 6.5 roses in 10 minutes), you need to twirl them on something a lot smaller/faster than a turntable.  It's apparent they can be made more productively if you never need to let go of your tools in either hand just to pick them up again to continue, but piping directly on the cake would drive me crazy --  I've got too many things to do before I die!  (Sorry, I'm repeating myself now -- need to find something more productive to do!)

It sure sounds like  your icing is not stiff enough and/or you are making your center much too tall and thin.  Some people suggest using a Hershey's kiss as the center mound but not all your customers will like having choco & it's an added expense! So what I taught was to have a Kiss in front of you can get the size and shape correct.  Then make sure the icing is stiff enough but not so stiff it kills your hand to pipe it out :)

Unlimited, I just looked back at your videos again and just don't see where you explained it.  I see a couple of comments from others but not yours. 

Unlimited, To each his own!! I do not work and am retired so I have plenty of time! You can do roses your way and I will do them my way.  If I sold cakes for a living then maybe I would do the roses differently but for now I enjoy doing them on the cake.

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Originally Posted by denetteb 

Unlimited, I just looked back at your videos again and just don't see where you explained it.  I see a couple of comments from others but not yours. 

I also can't view the text from my laptop (I don't know why), but I can from my desktop.  Here's the text:

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Originally Posted by remnant3333 

Unlimited, To each his own!! I do not work and am retired so I have plenty of time! You can do roses your way and I will do them my way.  If I sold cakes for a living then maybe I would do the roses differently but for now I enjoy doing them on the cake.

Of course, I can continue piping roses my way (thankyouverymuch), and I can't stop you from making them your way (whichever way that may be).  I didn't diss you for how you make them as I don't know your method (you didn't say you made them the same way as in the video you linked to).

I've got plenty of time too.  I USED to work on an assembly line, and it ruins you for the rest of your life when it comes to idle time... you can't sit still without thinking of ways to multi-task, carry too many things (instead of making two trips), have restful sleep without dreaming about what needs to get done, etc.!

Unlimited, thanks for posting the words  (I am viewing on a desk top but the words don't show.)  Your assembly line efficiency definitely shows up on your pan removal creation. 

hi,,can i make bk rosses with ahead of time..how many day on advanced

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Originally Posted by mcpr77 

hi,,can i make bk rosses with ahead of time..how many day on advanced

Sure you can.  The sooner you make them, the longer they'll have to air dry which will make them easier to handle and place.  Two days in advance might be long enough to handle gently, four days would be better, and a week or two earlier wouldn't hurt either!