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post #31 of 43
I like sugar veil but the mats are just ridiculous. I think they are pretty but it just isn't worth it. Would like a pen to get it super thin without the hand fatigue.
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post #32 of 43
Have used Lakelands magic icing.It is the same as Magic Icing made
By Pavoni in Italy.Would recommend it.
post #33 of 43
Sorry I should have said Magic Decor in Italy by Pavoni.
post #34 of 43

Shasha - did you try this out?

post #35 of 43
I have been researching icing pens, because the Sugarveil one is so over priced!  It looks like my $30 airbrush without the needle.
Below are the only options I could come up with.  2 are manual, and 2 are battery operated.
I have #1, and have ordered #2, #3, & #4.  I will keep one, give one to my sister, and the other to a very good 'cakie' friend.  AFTER I have tried them, of course.
If anyone has already tried these, please give your feedback!!
 
#1
The original icing pen, manual operation.  Mixed reviews here also.
Averages $10-$15 with shipping
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#2

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post #36 of 43
If you are asking opinions, I would try the one where you set a bag in it and it has the ez squeeze handle first. I am guessing the little syringe ones are total crap, and the battery one looks suspect. Like it would be totally inconsistent. I am very curious to get your results. I want a pen also, but there is no freaking way I am spending $220. That is more than my car payment.
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post #37 of 43

Hello Annabakescakes,

 

You said: "I would try the one where you set a bag in it and it has the ez squeeze handle first."

And you are right.  This gave the best control, and you could swap tips more easily, and it produced the best results, with the least mess!.  It fit in the hand, as if you were holding a pen, felt normal.  And you could see what you were doing easily.  And better control the flow.

 

You said: "I am guessing the little syringe ones are total crap,"

NOT totally.  It did produce a nice thin line, BUT...If you squeeze on it WITHOUT holding the plunger down some, the plunger just gets forced back up and so you run out of icing, no pressure.  And if you apply pressure to the plunger as you write, it works, but is a little hard to control /stop the icing from coming out a little when you are done with a letter, and no longer want it to come out.  It does work, but not as well as the above option. And it doesn't hold much icing, and is not easy to fill, but then I probably was not doing it right. lol

 

You said: "and the battery one looks suspect. Like it would be totally inconsistent.

You hit that one on the nose!  I had high hopes for this one, but...  You can only use the tips that came with it, and the writing tip is just tooo big!  I like a finer line.  And it is messy to fill, the plate they provide for filling the pen from the bought icing container, really made a mess.  But the worst part was controlling the flow!  You have a fast and a slow speed.  The slow speed is fast enough.  You press all the way down to force the icing OUT.  Then you  back off the pressure HALF WAY to throw it into reverse, so the flow will stop!  If you let the pressure off the switch all the way WITHOUT this 'halfway' step, the flow continues and you have a mess.  I experimented with all the tips, was able to get them to work, but not how I would have liked...  I am a very unhappy camper with this one.

 

Maybe we can figure how to adapt a cheapo air brush to do the job??  Hope someone can figure this one out for us.  lol


Edited by blwilley - 12/2/13 at 9:18pm

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post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by blwilley View Post and Annabakescakes
"I would try the one where you set a bag in it and it has the ez squeeze handle first."

And you are right.  This gave the best control, and you could swap tips more easily, and it produced the best results, with the least mess!.  It fit in the hand, as if you were holding a pen, felt normal.  And you could see what you were doing easily.  And better control the flow.

 

Which number is that one from the list of four?

There. Their. They're not the same.

I hope I die before "your" becomes the official contraction of "you are."

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There. Their. They're not the same.

I hope I die before "your" becomes the official contraction of "you are."

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post #39 of 43
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Originally Posted by shanter View Post
 

Which number is that one from the list of four?

Hi!  It is #2, the E-Z Deco icing pen.

I was trying to upload pics to show results from using all 3, but don't know where they went!  I said 3, because the last 2 battery operated ones are almost identical.

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post #40 of 43

Hi everyone!  Finally was able to upload the pictures, showing the results, of using each of these pens.

 

This pic shows how thick the icing comes out using the battery operated pen, #3 in the pictures.

The reg. piping tip has a hole that is just too large for any decent writing, IMO.

(JWinslow, I remembered that one! lol)

 

 

This pic shows the best results that I was able to obtain, using tip #3 with the E-Z Deco icing pen, pic #2.

You can use any tip you want with this one, and NOT the others.  I did some quick string work on the container.

And a 5 high over-piping, that fell over because I did not let it set up between pipjngs, & I was using DH frosting.

Then I did a 4 high one that stayed put, also with the DH frosting.  .

 

 

This was done using the little pen with the plunger, #1 in the pictures.

Main drawback in my opinion, is that it does not hold enough icing, and it is hard to fill.

Probably not doing it properly.   And, yes, I can write a little neater than that!  It was running out of icing-again!

And it only has the writing tip.

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post #41 of 43
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Originally Posted by blwilley View Post
 

Hello Annabakescakes,

 

You said: "I would try the one where you set a bag in it and it has the ez squeeze handle first."

And you are right.  This gave the best control, and you could swap tips more easily, and it produced the best results, with the least mess!.  It fit in the hand, as if you were holding a pen, felt normal.  And you could see what you were doing easily.  And better control the flow.

 

You said: "I am guessing the little syringe ones are total crap,"

NOT totally.  It did produce a nice thin line, BUT...If you squeeze on it WITHOUT holding the plunger down some, the plunger just gets forced back up and so you run out of icing, no pressure.  And if you apply pressure to the plunger as you write, it works, but is a little hard to control /stop the icing from coming out a little when you are done with a letter, and no longer want it to come out.  It does work, but not as well as the above option. And it doesn't hold much icing, and is not easy to fill, but then I probably was not doing it right. lol

 

You said: "and the battery one looks suspect. Like it would be totally inconsistent.

You hit that one on the nose!  I had high hopes for this one, but...  You can only use the tips that came with it, and the writing tip is just tooo big!  I like a finer line.  And it is messy to fill, the plate they provide for filling the pen from the bought icing container, really made a mess.  But the worst part was controlling the flow!  You have a fast and a slow speed.  The slow speed is fast enough.  You press all the way down to force the icing OUT.  Then you  back off the pressure HALF WAY to throw it into reverse, so the flow will stop!  If you let the pressure off the switch all the way WITHOUT this 'halfway' step, the flow continues and you have a mess.  I experimented with all the tips, was able to get them to work, but not how I would have liked...  I am a very unhappy camper with this one.

 

Maybe we can figure how to adapt a cheapo air brush to do the job??  Hope someone can figure this one out for us.  lol

Whoo hoo! I will take 2 out of 3 any day. I still think I am mostly right on the other one, any way ;-)

 

I am sorry you are out the money, but I am glad you did the test. It is very helpful. I would love to mess around and see if I can com up with anything :-)

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post #42 of 43

Thanks for the recipe. i'll try this soon. But how much exactly is the gelatin and the water? because in my country we use the powdered gelatin, let it bloom in cold water before we melt it. It would be great if you could help me with this. Thanks a bunch!

post #43 of 43

Hi all,

 

Thought it might be helpful to post a few updates. Here are the newest mixing/oven-setting instructions for SugarVeil: https://www.facebook.com/notes/sugarveil-icing/oven-setting-sugarveil-instructions-for-use-with-sugarveil-confectioners-mats/589689461074977. Really fast and easy to do, and with oven temps of 170 degrees F / 77 degrees C, the Lace Mat sets in about 8.5 minutes. Users in humid areas especially like this oven-setting method, as well as dusting the mats first with cornstarch. Here are a few more tips: https://www.facebook.com/notes/sugarveil-icing/sugarveil-icing-in-humid-conditions/115755021801759.

 

Also, with Easter in mind, you might be interested in these instructions for making a cake nest containing a Faberge-style decorated sugar egg: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152365503424893.1073741870.58910664892&type=1. The 'settings' are made with the Brooches Mat [http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/sugarveil-mat.htm]:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this is helpful, and Happy Easter!

Michele Hester
Creator of SugarVeil Icing
art@sugarveil.com
http://www.SugarVeil.com (website)
http://www.youtube.com/sugarveil (videos)
http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing (tips)
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Michele Hester
Creator of SugarVeil Icing
art@sugarveil.com
http://www.SugarVeil.com (website)
http://www.youtube.com/sugarveil (videos)
http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing (tips)
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