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How can I make a flexible icing similar to Sugar Veil

post #1 of 43
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I am making some netting and can't get to a store that carries Sugarveil before tomorrow evening. Does anyone know how to make a Sugarveil type product? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 43
Hi and Welcome,

Here's a thread that will give you that info and more:

http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=32371&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sugarveil&&start=30
post #3 of 43
I know this does not help you but when I was at OSSAS this past week there was a cake that had beautiful delicate lace. I asked her what she used since I used sugarveil (without the pen its hard to get thin) she said she got a revipe for a flexible pastillage from a lady in Africa. I asked her for the recipe and hope that she sends it. So there are things out there.
post #4 of 43

Someone should make a flexible icing because the sugarveil icing just isn't fit for purpose not in the uk

it may work well in the American climate but not here no way, you can try and try but its no good, ive tried every room in my house and even tried the garage to get it to set properly just wont have it, and when it looks like you have managed it half an hour later its gone all sticky again and stuck solid to the grease proof the stuffs a joke ive left it for 1day 2days 3days 4days 5days all with the same result it peels from the mat no probs then it picks up a bit of humidity half an hour later and bang  its stuck to my fingers its stuck in my hair on my clothes lol I swear down the stuffs a joke, I can only guess the guys using this like on utube or either in the usa or they have climate controlled rooms or perhaps adding something I bought 5 packs of sugarveil tried 4 packs and binned the last bag couldn't bear the tears any longer. 

post #5 of 43
Ah, I am really grateful someone spoke out. I am in the UK and have experienced the same with 4 pkts. I thought it was me or my property or location. Would be interesting to find out experiences of other users of the product.
post #6 of 43

Yes I am from Yorkshire and have experienced the same problem, I have to agree with Hannah the product isn't designed for the British climate unless you have air conditioning that could make a difference, I stopped trying some time ago.

post #7 of 43

Have any of you tried this: http://www.crystalcandy.co.za/index.html  It claims to be better in high humidity...

post #8 of 43

I live in near a lake in the swamps of Central Florida, well, not actually IN the swamp, but I have had alligators walk down my street more than once, so pretty darn close. It's usually 90% humidity or higher here, and I have just finished making my first Sugarveil lace & it worked fine, so I'm thinking you may have bad product. I had a pkg. of Sugarveil that had to be 3 years old, and mixed it according to directions, and 'smeared' (for lack of better word) finished product as thinly as possible into a CK Lace Mold thats made for fondant (not the official Sugarveil lace molds at $75 each). I let it dry overnight, and the next day I peeled out beautiful flexible lace. 5 days later it's still pliable. I used the lightest possible spritz of a commercial bakery non-stick product wiping off any excess, then used an offset spatula to lay a thin bit of wet SugarVeil into the mold, and then worked it back & forth to be sure every nook & cranny had a very thin layer of product in it; THIN IS IMPORTANT! I let it air dry in a 78F degree room for about 18 hours until no longer tacky to touch, and it peeled out beautifully!  Now I'm going to try the home made recipe (follows here), but if it doesn't work, I WILL buy more SugarVeil, as a little bit goes a very long way. The powder is relatively cheap, it's the nice dispenser, a $220 single use device, and the molds/mats at $40-$75 each that are just waaayy too expensive. I also used the SugarVeil in a piping bag w #1 tip and made netting & line drawings of flowers and figures onto parchment that had been sprayed with a trace of non-stick then wiped w paper towel to remove excess (otherwise the SV wouldn't grab onto the paper), and 12 hours later I peeled off perfect flexible "doo-dads" for decorating that I could stretch, bend, etc. I want more!

 

FLEXIBLE PASTILLAGE (or MOCK SUGARVEIL)

1 T Tylose

1/4 c boiling water

1 T conf sugar

2 t cornstarch

1/2 t meringue powder

1/2 t corn syrup

In mixer bowl, combine Tylose & water, mix until completely clear.  Then add the other ingredients one at a time in the follwoing order, blending well after each addition.

Conf. sugar, cornstarch, meringue powder, corn syrup.  When all is added, beat on medium high for 4 minutes. Store in ziplock bag with all excess air removed or SV will dry out.  Pipe to make webs,nets, flower outlines, or use molds, and dry well. If the finished items become stiff, soften them by placing a slightly damp towel over item for a very short time. Store finished items in airtight ziplocks.

 

I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS YET! So I don't know if it works, buy I plan to try it soon, and will report back with results.  Good luck!

post #9 of 43

There. Their. They're not the same.

I hope I die before "your" becomes the official contraction of "you are."

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There. Their. They're not the same.

I hope I die before "your" becomes the official contraction of "you are."

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post #10 of 43

Hi 

Ok I tried this the 1st time I thought the recipe asked for 1lb of icing sugar big mistake lol...  Ok so second go wasnt much better it was very thick and lumpy so added more water I have tried it in my mat and did kinda work albeit thick but was brittle so will have to wait for a tutorial to find out were Im going wrong... 

post #11 of 43

Hopefully I can offer a bit of assist here. First of all, here are some really helpful details when working with SugarVeil in humidity: https://www.facebook.com/notes/sugarveil-icing/sugarveil-icing-in-humid-conditions/115755021801759.

 

In humid climates, you need to dry out the air in order to set SugarVeil - easiest way is to just turn on a nearby oven, or to allow a fan to blow across the decorations. If using the Confectioners' Mats, you can sprinkle them with a dusting of cornstarch before spreading. When the decorations are set, be sure to place them in a zipped bag to keep the humidity out until you are ready to use them.

 

Interestingly, humidity ends up offering many benefits - as long as you dry out the air to set it, SugarVeil stays flexible almost indefinitely.

 

Please do voice to us any questions which might arise as you work with SugarVeil - we are more than happy to assist. The fastest way to get an answer is via our Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing. Or you can email us at info@sugarveil.com.  Thank you!

Michele Hester
Creator of SugarVeil Icing
art@sugarveil.com
http://www.SugarVeil.com (website)
http://www.youtube.com/sugarveil (videos)
http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing (tips)
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Michele Hester
Creator of SugarVeil Icing
art@sugarveil.com
http://www.SugarVeil.com (website)
http://www.youtube.com/sugarveil (videos)
http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing (tips)
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post #12 of 43
I'm in the UK too. I can't comment on Sugarveil as I've not used it, but I have used Cake Lace by Claire Bowman, and it's great - you set it in a really low temp oven. It worked perfectly on my first go.

I noticed tonight though that Lakeland are now selling their own brand version which I will be interested to try...
post #13 of 43
I've just ordered the lakeland one to try!
post #14 of 43

Awesome thread, am posting to follow, thank you

post #15 of 43
Hi has anyone tried the lakeland brand, and if anyone knows what it's called. .thanks
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