Meringue Powder

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MsRhonda Posted 25 Oct 2005 , 4:46am
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Is it absolutely necessary to use merinque powder in a buttercream icing recipe. I use the Wilton recipe which is 1 cup Crisco, 1 tsp flavoring, 2 Tablespoons water, 1 lb. powdered sugar, 1 T. merinque powder and a pinch of salt. What is the purpose of the merinque powder anyway? Just wondering.

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 25 Oct 2005 , 4:56am
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Hhmn, to sell more meringue powder? Haha, well the theory is it is supposed to make a crusting icing, make it easier for flowers and such to hold their shape, make it easier to work with in areas of high humidity. Many people will tell you it doesn't make any difference, I would suggest trying a quarter recipe to see what you think, without it. It is supposed to make your roses air-dry better, some people don't think it matters.
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thesocialfrog Posted 25 Oct 2005 , 5:36am
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I never use the merinque powder in my Butter Cream & I never have a problem, it always crusts over just perfect. I use half cup shortning, half cup stick of butter, 1 teaspoon clear vanilla extract, 1 pound of confectioner's sugar. And if it is to stiff add a little milk, I usually never do though. icon_biggrin.gif

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TexasSugar Posted 25 Oct 2005 , 9:46pm
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It is use to add stabilty to your icing. It is also used to help keep your darker colors from bleeding on to each other as fast.

Yes you can make your icing with out it, but I'd be careful if using dark, deep colors that used alot of color to make.

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 2:31am
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It is use to add stabilty to your icing. It is also used to help keep your darker colors from bleeding on to each other as fast.Yes you can make your icing with out it, but I'd be careful if using dark, deep colors that used alot of color to make.



Edited because part of your quote got scrambled, Texas Sugar.

That is the popular belief, but in truth, it doesn't really have that much effect on either stability or stopping the colours from bleeding. This has been tested out by several people from time to time. It may make your flowers dry a little more, but the cornstarch in the powdered sugar also has this effect. A lot of the stability issues have to do with the fat to sugar ratio more than anything. With regards to the bleeding out of darker colours, it makes no difference. The bleeding out has more to do with salt and a breakdown of minerals in the water of certain areas, and also condensation.
I know Wilton instructors tell students this, but it isn't really accurate.
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Cake_Princess Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 3:58am
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Yes I am gonna second what SQC Mama said. I really can't figure out The Real purpose of the meringue powder in the icing. My Wilton instuctor told the purpose of it is to make the icing crust over and stabilize the colors. Well, prior to taking the course I have always made my icing without Meringue powder and my colors NEVER bleed in to each other AND my icing ALWAYS crust over. During the time I Was taking the classes I ran out of Meringue powder and I just did what I did before (not use it). Well I went into class with a cake that was perfectly smooth and well crusted over. My instructor commented on how nicely it was base coated and I simply said "Oh and I even ran out of meringue and didn't use any."

So, what's the real purpose of it? Taste factor?

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:08am
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Well, in theory it should be the crusting or stability factor. But I think the cornstarch in the powdered sugar actually takes care of that issue. This debate has taken place on here before, I believe it was Cali4Dawn who stated that it is likely to sell the meringue powder.
I will tell you why I know it doesn't help with the bleeding issue, I never use it. But I did use it in Alice's Cookie Icing from the Wilton site, a recipe Bunnywoman shared. And you know, that icing bled out something terrible. Now personally I am not fond of the taste of the meringue powder in a buttercream because I find it gives the icing a cream cheese taste to some degree. However I do use it for Royal Icing, but then, it is because of the effect. So it does have that hardening effect in a royal where there is no grease, but I don't find it does anything when there is fat.
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ShelbysYummys Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:12am
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As A witon instrutor.I tend to believe that one of the main purposes is $$$. My last class I accidently made my icing w/o MP. OPPPS!! icon_surprised.gif But it came out fine. I was able to do everything I was suppose to teach w/o the MP. Do I make my icing w/o MP?? icon_razz.gif No, Old habits never die. I am always afraid I will mess things up If I don't.
A lot of other Wilton instructors I know push only WILTON.But, it is part of our job to SELL SELL SELL. I belive in the products but if there is something better I will mention other product in a NON selling way. As for decorating the WILTON WAY. I will also teach other ways. I want my student to come out of my class learning how to DECORATE and their cakes look good!!
Michelle

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Cake_Princess Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:14am
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I think it's a selling thing too... LOL... Yes That's The taste I could not think of it... but yes I know what you mean... It does alter the taste but that's The only difference I Can find so far.


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P.S. Are u hiding? LMAO

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Cake_Princess Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:21am
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As A witon instrutor.I tend to believe that one of the main purposes is $$$. My last class I accidently made my icing w/o MP. OPPPS!! Surprised But it came out fine. I was able to do everything I was suppose to teach w/o the MP. Do I make my icing w/o MP?? Razz No, Old habits never die. I am always afraid I will mess things up If I don't.
A lot of other Wilton instructors I know push only WILTON. I belive in the products but if there is something better I will mention other product in a NON selling way. As for decorating the WILTON WAY. I will also teach other ways. I want my student to come out of my class learning how to DECORATE and their cakes look good!!
Michelle





Good for you Michelle. It seemed every week my instructor was trying to get me to buy something. Dont get me wrong, I love The products. But if I Can find the same product for less at another store I am gonna buy it where I can get it cheaper. And if I can find a cheaper brand that works just as well or better the same goes. Ummm, do WMI make commission from The store they work at? LOL

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:31am
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I think it's a selling thing too... LOL... Yes That's The taste I could not think of it... but yes I know what you mean... It does alter the taste but that's The only difference I Can find so far.


Princess
P.S. Are u hiding? LMAO



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Oh yes and having said all that, funny thing is, the only meringue powder I am ever truly happy with, for storage purposes, is the Wilton one, I must confess. I can get meringue powder cheaper at Bulk Barns and other places, but I find the Wilton one stores for longer and is a better consistency.
Heehee, good to see a Wilton Instructor that teaches things that will be useful to the students whether or not they are the Wilton way.
I have to say, I am a big fan of Wilton products and methods for the most part. I think because many of the ideas we use now, were developed by Wilton originally. Many of the best instructors started off there or teach there. I learned what I know, from old Wilton yearbooks and their encyclopedias, for the most part. Sure there are a few products I have been less than happy with, but for the most part they have worked well for me.
They have been very good to respond to any queries I have made, almost immediately.
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ShelbysYummys Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:34am
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commission!! I wish I made commission!! icon_lol.gif
Michelle

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 26 Oct 2005 , 4:48am
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commission!! I wish I made commission!! icon_lol.gif
Michelle



Haha, so it isn't like a shoesalesperson selling product like shoe polish etc? Darn!
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