The only pans I get precious about are my Invictas (I am only a hobby baker) I find they are heavyweight enough for my fruit cakes and give nice sharp edeges/corners. They cost £20 - 30 brand new in the Uk...other makes brand new might be £10 -15. I have to watch that Hubby doesn't 'Tidy Up' the cupboard and place them near an outside wall (Risk of rust) My Dad 'Tidied Up' my Mothers and took them downstairs to the cellar!!! They went rusty and she went livid at him!!!!