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post #61 of 75
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Originally Posted by mattyeatscakes View Post
 

but some can be mighty snooty. you know who you are, and for those i wanna say - i hope your high and mighty attitudes does not give you nose bleed. :D 

 

It really surprises me that posters who condemn (what they consider to be) unpleasant remarks, do exactly the same thing. The cycle will not be broken unless everyone adheres to the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

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post #62 of 75
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Originally Posted by ellenoirify View Post
 

Hey guys!

So I really want to say THANK YOU to all of you! Now I know what I can do better next time.
the thing with the butter knife for example… I didn't realize that but know I´m thinking :" dang it! that´s so obvious".  
Now I know what to do on my next video and that´s the reason I started this thread. 
So thank you very much for your feedback! really appreciate it! :)


You're welcome. One last thing.  When you come to CC,  do not interpret frustration by seasoned pros as mean or snooty.  Members who participated in this thread would not use a butter knife (for example) and they know it but you were told how  "cute"  it was or" I liked it".   Not giving you real feedback and not telling you the truth doesn't do you any favors especially because you are going after a larger audience (by promoting your channel) and this comes with some responsibility.   Tutorials are meant to show new and correct ways of doing things.  Analyze your videos before you upload and be highly critical - never settle for average - there's too much of that already.   Compare yours to others as research and pick out what is good (the flow like carmijok said) and what you can change (and you got many suggestions)   - Good luck with the next one.

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You're welcome. One last thing.  When you come to CC,  do not interpret frustration by seasoned pros as mean or snooty.  Members who participated in this thread would not use a butter knife (for example) and they know it but you were told how  "cute"  it was or" I liked it".   Not giving you real feedback and not telling you the truth doesn't do you any favors especially because you are going after a larger audience (by promoting your channel) and this comes with some responsibility.   Tutorials are meant to show new and correct ways of doing things.  Analyze your videos before you upload and be highly critical - never settle for average - there's too much of that already.   Compare yours to others as research and pick out what is good (the flow like carmijok said) and what you can change (and you got many suggestions)   - Good luck with the next one

Thanks for the feedback!

post #64 of 75

The people on American Idol who actually listen to the judges and mentors, take their advice, and go work on what they told them need work are the ones who win the contest. The ones who ignore the judges and mentors because they think they're good enough already and the judges are just being mean don't get to the end. Just saying.

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The people on American Idol who actually listen to the judges and mentors, take their advice, and go work on what they told them need work are the ones who win the contest. The ones who ignore the judges and mentors because they think they're good enough already and the judges are just being mean don't get to the end. Just saying.

 

 

true that and to her credit op is listening--

 

i prefer the judging style on' the voice' better than simon's critiques on 'american idol'--they seem more careful on 'the voice' to leave the person intact while they are shooting straight--

 

i think pure truth'll likely kill yah--needs to be tempered--not diluted--balanced so it can be beneficial--because we all do need to improve--

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post #66 of 75

i think overall we are a pretty good bunch--throw out the highest and the lowest scores and we've about got it close to right

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post #67 of 75
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Originally Posted by mattyeatscakes View Post
 

i guess people need to realize that the OP's tutorial is more geared towards beginners (eg. kids, teens, moms who-have-never-decorated-a-cupcake-aside-from-sprinkles-and-their-kid-suddenly-wants-a-toy story-theme-cupcakes-for-his-birthday)...  when i was a beginner, anyone who can swirl a cupcake was god! so i appreciate videos like this. it shows that ordinary people with ordinary household items and with no decorating skill can pull off something like this. 

 

not everyone who watches the youtube videos have access to decorating tools, viewers come from all over the world and from all walks of life.  showing a tutorial on how to make a toy story cupcake topper using all sorts of tools might not be very helpful to some simply because they cannot afford the special tools or it might be too much for their skill level. i do agree with some posters that the OP should have used a parring knife, as this is a common knife in the kitchen.  but that's it. or maybe for kids following this tutorial, a butter knife is safer. 

 

anyway, i am babbling. CC is a great place to learn new skills, members here are always ready to help (thank you!!).  but some can be mighty snooty. you know who you are, and for those i wanna say - i hope your high and mighty attitudes does not give you nose bleed. :D 


I don't think I sounded high and mighty.  I was being honest.  The OP asked us to look at and subscribe to her YouTube channel.  Now I could blow smoke up her yazoo and tell her how great it was and let her think that what she has out there passes as a tutorial, or I could give an honest assessment of what I saw and what I think needed to happen in order for her to be taken seriously.  I believe I told her that IF she was wanting to come across as a 'look what I did with household tools' then it needed to be presented as that...but regardless of what tools she used (and I've multi-tasked some weird ones), the end result should reflect a clean finished product.  This didn't. 

 

You have an interesting take on learning.  Most amateurs (moms and people from all over the country and walks of life), don't want to be taught by someone on their same skill level.  I don't know about you, but if I wanted to be a doctor...or a plumber...or ANYTHING...I wouldn't be seeking out 'teachers' who obviously needed instruction themselves just to make me feel better about my own lack of skills.  

 

Like I said in my other post, I am self-taught.  I'm the someone who always wanted to do the special cake for my daughter and family.   I didn't have all the tools necessary to start with.  I too used make-shift equipment until I could buy the other stuff. I didn't have round cutters in different sizes so I would use bottle lids and glasses--and measuring spoons.  I didn't have a square cutter so I used a tooth-pick holder lid that was square.  I once made shotgun shells by rolling a ribbed shower curtain rod over gum paste to give it the right texture...I could go on and on.   But one thing I didn't do was seek out others who were as limited as I was in ability to learn from!  

 

The secret to a good honest tutorial is breaking down the elements of a design and showing how simple it can be to create on your own.  On that the OP succeeded.  Where the problem lies (IMO!) is in her technique and execution of the finished product.  I think she shows some real talent and has a lot of promise...but to teach something that you are still obviously in need of learning yourself is not helpful to anyone.  

 

It's very easy to cheer and say 'great job' whether you mean it or not.  I've always believed that true encouragement comes from honesty.  Letting someone know what needs work and how best to achieve it is where the real growth takes place.  I assume when someone posts on here that they are looking for honest answers and opinions-- not disingenuous flattery that helps no one.

 

Now if that makes me 'snooty' then so be it.

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post #68 of 75
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I don't think I sounded high and mighty.  I was being honest.  The OP asked us to look at and subscribe to her YouTube channel.  Now I could blow smoke up her yazoo and tell her how great it was and let her think that what she has out there passes as a tutorial, or I could give an honest assessment of what I saw and what I think needed to happen in order for her to be taken seriously.  I believe I told her that IF she was wanting to come across as a 'look what I did with household tools' then it needed to be presented as that...but regardless of what tools she used (and I've multi-tasked some weird ones), the end result should reflect a clean finished product.  This didn't. 

 

You have an interesting take on learning.  Most amateurs (moms and people from all over the country and walks of life), don't want to be taught by someone on their same skill level.  I don't know about you, but if I wanted to be a doctor...or a plumber...or ANYTHING...I wouldn't be seeking out 'teachers' who obviously needed instruction themselves just to make me feel better about my own lack of skills.  

 

Like I said in my other post, I am self-taught.  I'm the someone who always wanted to do the special cake for my daughter and family.   I didn't have all the tools necessary to start with.  I too used make-shift equipment until I could buy the other stuff. I didn't have round cutters in different sizes so I would use bottle lids and glasses--and measuring spoons.  I didn't have a square cutter so I used a tooth-pick holder lid that was square.  I once made shotgun shells by rolling a ribbed shower curtain rod over gum paste to give it the right texture...I could go on and on.   But one thing I didn't do was seek out others who were as limited as I was in ability to learn from!  

 

The secret to a good honest tutorial is breaking down the elements of a design and showing how simple it can be to create on your own.  On that the OP succeeded.  Where the problem lies (IMO!) is in her technique and execution of the finished product.  I think she shows some real talent and has a lot of promise...but to teach something that you are still obviously in need of learning yourself is not helpful to anyone.  

 

It's very easy to cheer and say 'great job' whether you mean it or not.  I've always believed that true encouragement comes from honesty.  Letting someone know what needs work and how best to achieve it is where the real growth takes place.  I assume when someone posts on here that they are looking for honest answers and opinions-- not disingenuous flattery that helps no one.

 

Now if that makes me 'snooty' then so be it.

I really appreciate your comment. And after all these comments here I realized that I can improve in many ways and I´ll try to follow your /and every other) advice!
You really helped me to realize what´s not good about my videos and that´s what I´ve been looking for!

post #69 of 75

carmijok--i thought the overall gist of your first post bordered on brilliant--you were/are super helpful--detailed--thoughtful--thought provoking--offered excellent suggestions--covered all the bases including the biggie that yuma arizona said in post #2 'to whom do you dedicate this video' --

 

if i had critiqued the video i might have said, 'not as neat as it could have been' you said 'sloppy'--you also gave great insight and if you see sloppy you called it like you saw it--different strokes is all--

 

but i'm a cheerleader--i can critique if i want to but i usually don't wanna--somebody's gotta do it--i know you and others are out there who will not only microplane off some rough spots but will also give great recommendations--all good

 

together we're a little sticky and sweet village--instead of steel mills with great vats of molten steel we have vats of hot sugar that burns deeply if we're not careful but we learn to pay undivided attention after that----and as a village we're not without our fair share of idiots and the idiot in each of us cropping up  the odd time or two--but we all make it work together i think--

 

great job, carmijok--

 

also fwiw--most all the pastry chefs shop at home depot and hardware stores for interesting equipment and textures -- not to mention we run the risk of missing out if we limit our learning to only those we think are smarter than us--

 

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post #70 of 75
I made a tute a couple of years ago, it was probably 5 minutes, and thrown together for the benefit of a conversation I was having with some friends, just to explain what I couldn't in words. I've tried to find it, and can't...and it's probably awful if judged by other tutorials...heh heh. Anyways, if anyone wants to help me find it, we can all have a laugh! It was about smoothing fondant, I think my username was something like Jamie Caking, jamiescakeing, something silly like that. I can't find it.icon_biggrin.gif
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post #71 of 75
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I made a tute a couple of years ago, it was probably 5 minutes, and thrown together for the benefit of a conversation I was having with some friends, just to explain what I couldn't in words. I've tried to find it, and can't...and it's probably awful if judged by other tutorials...heh heh. Anyways, if anyone wants to help me find it, we can all have a laugh! It was about smoothing fondant, I think my username was something like Jamie Caking, jamiescakeing, something silly like that. I can't find it.icon_biggrin.gif


I remember it -  it was the first time I heard your voice !

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A sense of humour is a wonderful thing  - without laughter, the world is a SUPER boring place

PS..... only smart people can read truly WITTY comments and chuckle instead of getting all miffed

Hero of all time - GODOT

 

 

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post #72 of 75

Ha! I knew you and/or Kara would remember...just can't find it. I've searched a few times now. :(

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post #73 of 75
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Standing Ovation !!!   although I think the majority of people will not have a clue what you mean !!....... I do !!  :P

me too. because of the pigs nostrils.. yeah very funny…… 


Nope - not the pigs nostrils!  haha

A sense of humour is a wonderful thing  - without laughter, the world is a SUPER boring place

PS..... only smart people can read truly WITTY comments and chuckle instead of getting all miffed

Hero of all time - GODOT

 

 

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A sense of humour is a wonderful thing  - without laughter, the world is a SUPER boring place

PS..... only smart people can read truly WITTY comments and chuckle instead of getting all miffed

Hero of all time - GODOT

 

 

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post #74 of 75

To the OP (ellenoirify): As you have stated your sole purpose to come onto Cake Central was to promote your tutorials on YouTube and essentially advertise for more subscribers, it is a good opportunity for me to advise you that this is not permitted under our Terms of Use. Any further solicitation for subscribers will be deleted.

 

We have no problem in you seeking advice on how to improve your cake decorating skills/techniques, and as you have learned you will get a mix of responses and advice based on members' experience.

post #75 of 75
As always. People are "standing up" for the OP. My goodness she wanted honest feedback. Everybody has a different style of communicating. Im always amazed at how hurt people on here get at the opinions of STRANGERS! The internet is a mixed bag of people, if you come here asking for feedback you're going to get all different kinds.

Good on you, OP for taking the advice you asked for so graciously.

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