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post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by jason_kraft View Post

I haven't really noticed a seasonal variation in prices for most ingredients

Jason, in the UK, on the approach to Christmas in the supermarkets Plain flour rises in price whilst Self raising prices don't as much!!  A very bizarre seasonal phenomenon. Rather annoying as I bake my Christmas cakes using plain flour.  :)

post #17 of 22

"Seasonal pricing".... at the moment I was typing I couldn't think of a better word to explain the constant ebb and flow of commodity prices. For example, I remember last year paying almost $3.00 per pound of butter and right this moment it's at a great low around $1.80 per lb. at the big box stores (although it's still really expensive at the grocery stores, which I don't understand). The bigger your production or tighter your profit margins are the more you feel that pain or gain..........but it's there.

post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by jason_kraft View Post

Automatically estimating the amount of time needed for a cake is a much more difficult problem, it would require analyzing a picture of a cake and recognizing the complexity of different design components, then building an estimate based on the skill level of the user. That would probably be a computer science master's or PhD thesis problem on its own.

That's why the "price this cake" threads should really be, "how long would it take you to do this cake" thread. Costs can be calculated easily, estimating your time and getting a profitable payment for it is a lot more challenging.

post #19 of 22
Commodity prices will definitely fluctuate due to the available supply, that's why it's so important to update the price DB on a regular basis. Big box stores rely more on higher volume than higher margins and they buy more often, which is why they are more reactive to price shifts.

If there are true seasonal differences that are significant enough, this can be captured in the DB by including separate line items for things like in-season vs. out-of-season fruit or xmas pricing vs. non-xmas pricing for flour.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Stitches View Post

That's why the "price this cake" threads should really be, "how long would it take you to do this cake" thread. Costs can be calculated easily, estimating your time and getting a profitable payment for it is a lot more challenging.

Building in overhead costs is also a critical piece many people leave out, but I agree the most important cost component is usually labor.
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
Wow, Thank you all so much for your feedback it is helping alot as there are a few things that I didn't take into consideration in the beginning.
 
Stitches you have definitely done your research on this thank you for sharing your findings. I know supermarket pricing changes so often, creating an automated feed from supermarkets pricing fields is the main part of the project which I have almost mastered, this will ensure that the prices are always exact. 
I love the beginner, intermediate and advanced idea also!
 
I guess time is the biggest issue here, its a tough one to master.
 
​Spireite, there are definitely alot of things to take into account, especially for the hobby baker who may not have a supply of tools etc required for orders, I don't know if we should include these or not within the pricing.
 
As long as I know there is a potential market for the site and its not just a feeling in my water im willing to put alot of work into it.
 
Cannot thank you guys enough for the feedback... I am getting hooked to CC already!
post #22 of 22
Of course there is a market for it! That is why CakeBoss ha been so successful.

The difficulty will be deciding how much information to provide in order to be able to provide the program at a cost people will be willing to pay.

Currently, the cake boss software is about $150 (I think. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong). It provides costing recipes, creating invoices, & tracking orders. As far as I know, it does not provide the cost of ingredients. The user is responsible for inputting that information.

I have been wanting to purchase it for some time. Sadly, there always seems to be something more important to spend that $150. It's still on my wish list.

You'll need to decide what you want your price to be & how much you are willing I provide for that information.

www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

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It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
(4 photos)
 
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