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They can save money until they have enough to launch a business the right way.

 

L I K E

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She does track everything, but doesn't report it or pay any income taxes. She doesn't charge for or pay sales taxes either. She knows how much trouble she can get in, but chooses to take her chances. She keeps saying, "when I get legal", but she never really makes any moves to make that happen. I know that she had over $3000 in sales last month. That's gross sales, not profit, but still, it adds up.

That trip to Disney might be fun now but she'll wish she'd never gone when she's got no money and the Feds are after her. Most unlicensed bakers are turned in by someone they know, and usually for a reason that's got nothing to do with the product they're selling. If she's making that much money she's going to catch somebody's attention sooner or later.
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post #48 of 79
It's ok to charge a small amount, but if you then work out profits, or would turn out your self worth is £1 an hour. I don't know about you, but I, and my cakes, are worth more than that x x
post #49 of 79
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That trip to Disney might be fun now but she'll wish she'd never gone when she's got no money and the Feds are after her. Most unlicensed bakers are turned in by someone they know, and usually for a reason that's got nothing to do with the product they're selling. If she's making that much money she's going to catch somebody's attention sooner or later.

 

I agree. Her cookies showed up on the local evening news because the preschool near us gave the weatherman a cookie bouquet as a gift. The governor of TN also received some as a gift.  I told her that she better get legal soon because she is getting a lot of attention.

 

I can't bring myself to turn her in because we are close friends, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And she knows that. We have been friends for over 7 years, long before she started making cookies. 

 
She can actually make cookies under the CFL in TN if she weren't making so much money. I think the maximum you can make annually is $5K in sales. She surpassed that a long time ago.
post #50 of 79
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I hear you!

My situation is difficult -- I'm that baker just starting out. I gave away a LOT of freebies, and I'm still in that spot.

I'm 100% ready to start the application process to be a "real" business, but I'm running into red tape. I contacted my county health department -- I'm in NE Ohio -- and they referred me to a person with a .utah address. I asked THAT individual whether he was the person I needed to contact to obtain a license for Ohio. He replied that he was (go fig) and that he needed more information. I gave him all my info regarding my business, and he hasn't replied. So now I'm back to square one. I, like you, work full time, so doing things during "business hours" usually involves email communications. I'm getting REALLY frustrated!

Not sure whom you originally contacted, but OH is the easiest state in the Union to work in.  You can operate under the Cottage Laws without any licensing [as long as you're not doing perishables] or you can get licensed for $10/yr.  It's handled through the OH Dept. of Agriculture.

 

http://cottagefoods.org/laws/usa/ohio/

 

Type of License: Home Bakery

Who Needs This License? Home baking of potentially hazardous baked goods

Licensing Period: Valid through September 30

Annual Fee: $10

Requirements: No pets in the home and no carpet in the kitchen

Forms Needed: License application is supplied at time of inspection.
Renewals are sent via the Division of Food Safety

Submit to: Ohio Dept. of Agriculture
Food Safety
8995 East Main Street
Reynoldsburg, OH 43068
Phone: (614) 728-6250
Email: foodsafety@agri.ohio.gov
 

post #51 of 79
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Speaking of the cat thing... I was looking through the cake disasters gallery and was pretty shocked at how many "dog got into the cake" disasters there were (I know I know, sometimes those aren't cakes for customers, just for family events)! Even worse- a comment on one of them was someone saying that when she makes cakes for her family, sometimes her dog gets into the icing on the cake and (since it's just for family) she "shhh" scrapes it off and re-ices and serves it. EWWW! 
 

 

There was a thread on here once where someone said her chickens got into the house, managed to get up on a table somehow,  and were pecking away at a cake. she said they ate it anyway. The most horrifying part was how the majority of the responses were "chickens are so cute!" and how funny the story was. When someone finally said that wasn't the most sanitary thing to happen she got all offended and said that her family ate it, not anyone else, so it was no big deal.

post #52 of 79
Wasn't there a thread where the OP started it to discuss one thing and it ended up being about the cat sitting up on the kitchen counter right behind the cake? Yep, I can totally believe that cat delivery story.
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It was a dog that licked half the buttercream icing off a customers cake, and the customer cake back and asked to re-ice it.!

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post #54 of 79

All I can say is that if the unlicensed bakers annoy you that much then report them.  Either that or get over it.  They are not worth adding stress in to your lives, there are enough legitimate things around to do that.

post #55 of 79
I always report illegals. I don't go trolling around the net especially to find them, but if I do stumble across them I shoot off an e-mail to the HD.
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I always report illegals. I don't go trolling around the net especially to find them, but if I do stumble across them I shoot off an e-mail to the HD.

 



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Most religions define Karma as a natural cause and effect, or a "you reap what you sow" type of thing. It's not a punishment...So I would say that based on the actual meaning of karma, the cause would be engaging in illegal activities, and the effect would be getting turned in for engaging in illegal activities. So yeah, karma.

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Most religions define Karma as a natural cause and effect, or a "you reap what you sow" type of thing. It's not a punishment...So I would say that based on the actual meaning of karma, the cause would be engaging in illegal activities, and the effect would be getting turned in for engaging in illegal activities. So yeah, karma.

Another perspective involves the effort you put in to protecting your community by letting the relevant authorities know when you see someone doing something wrong, even if it doesn't directly affect you. If you believe in karma, being a diligent citizen will result in others in your community helping you out in a similar fashion. On the flip side, subscribing to the "not my problem" attitude and turning a blind eye to illegal activity would lead to a community sense of apathy where laws are violated with impunity.
post #59 of 79
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Originally Posted by BrandisBaked View Post

Everyone has the right to set their own prices, and I'm a firm believer that new, inexperienced decorators SHOULD be charging less. After all, what is a "cake wreck" worth?

  AGREE & LMAO ~~ and that goes for hair dressers too!    :grin:;-D

post #60 of 79
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Originally Posted by MeSasa1978 View Post
 

I hear you!

My situation is difficult -- I'm that baker just starting out. I gave away a LOT of freebies, and I'm still in that spot.

I'm 100% ready to start the application process to be a "real" business, but I'm running into red tape. I contacted my county health department -- I'm in NE Ohio -- and they referred me to a person with a .utah address. I asked THAT individual whether he was the person I needed to contact to obtain a license for Ohio. He replied that he was (go fig) and that he needed more information. I gave him all my info regarding my business, and he hasn't replied. So now I'm back to square one. I, like you, work full time, so doing things during "business hours" usually involves email communications. I'm getting REALLY frustrated!

 

I'm in Medina.  Unless Ohio cottage laws have changed, you don't need a license unless you are doing food products that require refrigeration.  That's $10 and a walkthrough from a Dept of Agriculture rep...no pets and and no carpet in the kitchen.  And you have to use your family kitchen.  When I got my license a few years ago, I heard from everyone really quickly...

 

Good luck!

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