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post #31 of 79
Interesting about this group. I'm currently in one and do get a tad bit annoyed with the rationalizations of "why I charge so low"

One lady said "Lower your prices! Making some money is better than making none at all" o_O........huh?
post #32 of 79
My 'favourite' rationale I hear from 'hobby bakers' on these Facebook groups is that professionals keep going on about getting registered (UK) and charging more because they are jealous of the talent and that they are afraid of competition . I've stopped commenting on 'starting a business' questions on these groups, it's pointless. Like talking to a brick wall.
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post #33 of 79
Morgan I was in the same group as you for about a week, I couldn't take it anymore.
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Morgan I was in the same group as you for about a week, I couldn't take it anymore.

Lol!!! I knew it
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Lol!!! I knew it

Either that or someone stole your name! detective.gif
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 at the state health committee hearing this year and stated that she'd had many complaint calls of people bringing their dogs, and specifically cats, along on deliveries and the law didn't give her the right to do anything about it.

 

Just to get the basics out of the way, I'm against unlicensed bakers. Undercutters, whether licensed or not, drive market prices down and hurt legtitimate and non-legitimate businesses whether they want to admit it or not. And the cottage food laws don't help much either.

 

Now to my real question...Who the heck takes their cat ANYWHERE in the car other than the vet? I would like to see this delivery where the cat is hanging out in the car.

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Speaking of the cat thing... I was looking through the cake disasters gallery and was pretty shocked at how many "dog got into the cake" disasters there were (I know I know, sometimes those aren't cakes for customers, just for family events)! Even worse- a comment on one of them was someone saying that when she makes cakes for her family, sometimes her dog gets into the icing on the cake and (since it's just for family) she "shhh" scrapes it off and re-ices and serves it. EWWW! 
 

post #38 of 79

I get really annoyed with the unlicensed for the same reasons as everyone else.

 

I have a friend that makes cookies from her home and she is unlicensed. She charges properly in my opinion and she does great work. What irks me is that she is using her "cookie money" to take her family to Disney in a couple of weeks. She doesn't pay any taxes, licensing fees, or anything except ingredients cost while I spent literally thousands of dollars to do things legally. I do not even make the same product as her, so she is not my competition. It just annoys the crap out of me.

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Speaking of the cat thing... I was looking through the cake disasters gallery and was pretty shocked at how many "dog got into the cake" disasters there were (I know I know, sometimes those aren't cakes for customers, just for family events)! Even worse- a comment on one of them was someone saying that when she makes cakes for her family, sometimes her dog gets into the icing on the cake and (since it's just for family) she "shhh" scrapes it off and re-ices and serves it. EWWW! 

 

Ewwww!!!! I read on here that a lady made a cake, iced it and left in on the floor to settle the cat got into it and started eating it!!!! The worst part is she iced it again and sold it to a customer!!!!!!
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Even worse- a comment on one of them was someone saying that when she makes cakes for her family, sometimes her dog gets into the icing on the cake and (since it's just for family) she "shhh" scrapes it off and re-ices and serves it. EWWW! 

 
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post #41 of 79
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I get really annoyed with the unlicensed for the same reasons as everyone else.

I have a friend that makes cookies from her home and she is unlicensed. She charges properly in my opinion and she does great work. What irks me is that she is using her "cookie money" to take her family to Disney in a couple of weeks. She doesn't pay any taxes, licensing fees, or anything except ingredients cost while I spent literally thousands of dollars to do things legally. I do not even make the same product as her, so she is not my competition. It just annoys the crap out of me.

If she doesn't pay any taxes and doesn't track income/expenses, this will come back to her in a big way if she is audited by the IRS. The accounting fees alone could be thousands of dollars, not to mention back taxes and penalties.
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Now to my real question...Who the heck takes their cat ANYWHERE in the car other than the vet? I would like to see this delivery where the cat is hanging out in the car.

I know, right?!  No one believed her and she looked like a fool and was the butt of jokes for months after. After reading the other posts on this thread, I'm starting to wonder... I think she was from the county Tyler, Texas is in.

 

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I get really annoyed with the unlicensed for the same reasons as everyone else.

 

I have a friend that makes cookies from her home and she is unlicensed. She charges properly in my opinion and she does great work. What irks me is that she is using her "cookie money" to take her family to Disney in a couple of weeks. She doesn't pay any taxes, licensing fees, or anything except ingredients cost while I spent literally thousands of dollars to do things legally. I do not even make the same product as her, so she is not my competition. It just annoys the crap out of me.

People who don't pay their taxes are stupid. All it takes is for one annoyed person to turn them in. Maybe she doesn't pay because she thinks she can't if she's illegal, if so perhaps someone should let her know that the IRS doesn't care where she gets her money as long as she reports it.

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Speaking of the cat thing... I was looking through the cake disasters gallery and was pretty shocked at how many "dog got into the cake" disasters there were (I know I know, sometimes those aren't cakes for customers, just for family events)! Even worse- a comment on one of them was someone saying that when she makes cakes for her family, sometimes her dog gets into the icing on the cake and (since it's just for family) she "shhh" scrapes it off and re-ices and serves it. EWWW! 
 

 

 

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Ewwww!!!! I read on here that a lady made a cake, iced it and left in on the floor to settle the cat got into it and started eating it!!!! The worst part is she iced it again and sold it to a customer!!!!!!

Mind boggling.

post #43 of 79
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People who don't pay their taxes are stupid. All it takes is for one annoyed person to turn them in. Maybe she doesn't pay because she thinks she can't if she's illegal, if so perhaps someone should let her know that the IRS doesn't care where she gets her money as long as she reports it.

A surprising number of people believe that all branches of federal, state, county, and municipal government are connected and share information on a regular basis, so if one govt agency finds out about something they will all magically know.

The reality is that most govt agencies are just as dysfunctional as any other large company, and in most cases you're lucky if information is shared within a single department.
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If she doesn't pay any taxes and doesn't track income/expenses, this will come back to her in a big way if she is audited by the IRS. The accounting fees alone could be thousands of dollars, not to mention back taxes and penalties.

 

She does track everything, but doesn't report it or pay any income taxes. She doesn't charge for or pay sales taxes either. She knows how much trouble she can get in, but chooses to take her chances. She keeps saying, "when I get legal", but she never really makes any moves to make that happen. I know that she had over $3000 in sales last month. That's gross sales, not profit, but still, it adds up.

post #45 of 79
If you have that much information it might be time for Form 3949-A if you get to the point where you no longer want to subsidize her vacations.

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-Activity%3F
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