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post #16 of 49
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Hi mbranko24 :) Yes, vanilla essence and vanilla extract are essentially the same thing. I think extract is a slightly better quality than essence, but you could even use a vanilla paste if that was your preference. All vanilla is good! 

post #17 of 49

One of the supermarkets in my area had golden syrup.  It was Stop & Shop.

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Yes, I didn't use Nestle either icon_smile.gif


Hi Nadiaa ... I made a 12 in / 3 in chocolate mudcake...This size cake i have never done before. Because of the size of the cake tin i tripled the recipe which was perfect amt but the baking took forever almost 5 hrs in very low oven heat .. 130 deg... I only put 1 flower nail in the middle and a very wet terry towelling strip around the pan. Its still dry on the sides of the cake. What should i have done to get it perfect? And why is iy taking this long to cook? I am desperately in need of experts' advise. I have to to make this cake perfect for my daughter's wedding in 6 week! Help!!
post #19 of 49
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Hi fillylily - I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to your question. Maybe being in the oven so long caused the sides to dry out too much? Perhaps instead of tripling the recipe, maybe bake it in the layers you need, rather than having a big cake you need to layer. I hope someone can give you the answer, I've never tripled this recipe so I really don't know xxx

post #20 of 49

I cook mudcakes in 12 inch tins all the time. You don't need to cook it so low. 150 will be fine. I never use flower nails or baking strips either. I cover my tins with foil to keep the top from burning, and it also makes my cakes rise more evenly. If the edges get a bit dry, I wouldn't even worry about it. After feezing, even the dry-ish edges are pretty moist.

post #21 of 49
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I cook mudcakes in 12 inch tins all the time. You don't need to cook it so low. 150 will be fine. I never use flower nails or baking strips either. I cover my tins with foil to keep the top from burning, and it also makes my cakes rise more evenly. If the edges get a bit dry, I wouldn't even worry about it. After feezing, even the dry-ish edges are pretty moist.

Thanks Mcaulir. How long do you cook your 12x3" mudcakes for. First time i tried it still took that long (5 hrs) and middle was still undercooked. When i took it out of the oven it looked great, risen really well. But soon after the middle sank a bit. Incidentally, can you cook a 2" thick mudcake in a 12x3" deep pan? I just cannot find a 12, 9, and 6" x2" in Australia. Anyway, i will soldier on and try again for my daughter's sake.

Nadiaa, my daughter wanted me to make this cake for her wedding in7 weeks time, God help me. That's why i mustn't give up. This is her favourite. I bake this a lot but in a standard 8" pan.
post #22 of 49
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Thanks Mcaulir. How long do you cook your 12x3" mudcakes for. First time i tried it still took that long (5 hrs) and middle was still undercooked. When i took it out of the oven it looked great, risen really well. But soon after the middle sank a bit. Incidentally, can you cook a 2" thick mudcake in a 12x3" deep pan? I just cannot find a 12, 9, and 6" x2" in Australia. Anyway, i will soldier on and try again for my daughter's sake.

Nadiaa, my daughter wanted me to make this cake for her wedding in7 weeks time, God help me. That's why i mustn't give up. This is her favourite. I bake this a lot but in a standard 8" pan.

Maybe 3 hours max? If you're putting wet strips etc around your tin, that will make it take longer to cook. Mud cakes take a lot of abuse - you don't need to be too delicate with them.

 

The middle being undercooked will cause the sinking, so when it's cooked properly, it shouldn't do that. Use a wooden skewer to test done-ness. It should come out clean. Then leave it in the tin until it's cool, then wrap it up in a couple of layers of glad wrap and put it in the freezer. Let it freeze completely, then let it thaw and try it. The freezing adds moisture if you're even slightly worried about it, but I bet it will be fine.

 

You can absolutely cook a 2-inch layer in a 3-inch tin. Just put less batter in. I usually put more than I need in so I can level. Putting the foil over the top will make them rise really evenly, though, so you don't need to level much.

 

I didn't actually read the whole thread, but if you're wanting a  caramel cake, I just make a white chocolate mud cake and stir through a tin of Top and Fill. I've had success with that.

post #23 of 49
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Originally Posted by mcaulir View Post

Maybe 3 hours max? If you're putting wet strips etc around your tin, that will make it take longer to cook. Mud cakes take a lot of abuse - you don't need to be too delicate with them.

The middle being undercooked will cause the sinking, so when it's cooked properly, it shouldn't do that. Use a wooden skewer to test done-ness. It should come out clean. Then leave it in the tin until it's cool, then wrap it up in a couple of layers of glad wrap and put it in the freezer. Let it freeze completely, then let it thaw and try it. The freezing adds moisture if you're even slightly worried about it, but I bet it will be fine.

You can absolutely cook a 2-inch layer in a 3-inch tin. Just put less batter in. I usually put more than I need in so I can level. Putting the foil over the top will make them rise really evenly, though, so you don't need to level much.

I didn't actually read the whole thread, but if you're wanting a  caramel cake, I just make a white chocolate mud cake and stir through a tin of Top and Fill. I've had success with that.

Thanks for the tips Mcaulir. I will try that again. And if that fails again i will try a 2" and sandwich the layers with choc nuttercream perhaps? My daughter wants chocolate buttercream for frosting. And i am making a chocolate mudcake. This is the original recipe from Epicurious Chocolate:

1 1/2 cups of strong brewed coffee
250 g unsalted butter
1/4 c brandy
150 g dark chocolate (i used Cadbury dark cooking chocolate)
2 cups caster sugar
2cups plain flour
1 tsp baking soda
A pinch of salt
2 eggs beaten
1 tsp vanilla

It says to bake on a 135 deg oven for 1 hr and 30 min

I did this on an 8" pan and it came out perfectly.
post #24 of 49

This is the recipe I use all the time:

http://www.exclusivelyfood.com.au/2006/07/chocolate-mud-cake-recipe.html

 

I just use all dark chocolate, not a mixture. I think doubling the recipe will give a pretty high layer in a 3-inch tin.

 

Two 2-inch layers sandwiched together will work fine. I do that all the time, but with ganache. Don't underestimte how much buttercream you'll need - It will be a lot! You might need to make it pretty stiff for between the layers - a 12 inch mudcake is heavy!

 

I always cook this one at 150 - I haven't tried cooking at 135, so not sure how that would work.

 

Not sure what other size tiers you're making, but mudcake is super heavy, so if you're putting other tiers on top, plan for a heavy cake when finished.

post #25 of 49

Oh, meant to say that I think you're better off overcooking than undercooking mudcake because of the aforementioned sinking. Mudcake can cope with a bit of overcooking.

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Oh, meant to say that I think you're better off overcooking than undercooking mudcake because of the aforementioned sinking. Mudcake can cope with a bit of overcooking.

Point taken Mcaulir. I so much appreciate all your tips. At the moment I am trying a Betty Crocker chocolate cake called "best ever chocolate cake". Will decide which one to use depending on the outcome of this cake. And thanks for the link. Will try this one too.
post #27 of 49

I'm keen to hear how you go!

post #28 of 49
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Originally Posted by Nadiaa View Post
 

Hi mbranko24 :) Yes, vanilla essence and vanilla extract are essentially the same thing. I think extract is a slightly better quality than essence, but you could even use a vanilla paste if that was your preference. All vanilla is good! 

 

Vanilla extract contains alcohol, and its made from real vanilla pods..

Vanilla essence doesnt, and usually made from synthetic vanilla (ie just a flavour, nothing from real vanilla pods).

 

That's the biggest difference :) I make my own vanilla extract :)

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post #29 of 49
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Originally Posted by Tails View Post
 

 

Vanilla extract contains alcohol, and its made from real vanilla pods..

Vanilla essence doesnt, and usually made from synthetic vanilla (ie just a flavour, nothing from real vanilla pods).

 

That's the biggest difference :) I make my own vanilla extract :)

 

That is very cool! I used to use vanilla essence all the time...let's just say now I've used extracts and pastes I'm never going back :)

 

Fillylily - I hope your cake turns out wonderfully!!!

post #30 of 49
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Originally Posted by mcaulir View Post

This is the recipe I use all the time:
http://www.exclusivelyfood.com.au/2006/07/chocolate-mud-cake-recipe.html



I just use all dark chocolate, not a mixture. I think doubling the recipe will give a pretty high layer in a 3-inch tin.

Two 2-inch layers sandwiched together will work fine. I do that all the time, but with ganache. Don't underestimte how much buttercream you'll need - It will be a lot! You might need to make it pretty stiff for between the layers - a 12 inch mudcake is heavy!

I always cook this one at 150 - I haven't tried cooking at 135, so not sure how that would work.

Not sure what other size tiers you're making, but mudcake is super heavy, so if you're putting other tiers on top, plan for a heavy cake when finished.


I am planning to make 12-9-6" cake. If i use mudcake i wasn't going to split and fill, and fo tiers, just use single layers. I made this Betty Crocker "Best Ever chocolate cake" recipe yesterday on tge 12 " pan. Didn't reduce oven temp but used my terrytowelling baking strip and the cake came out perfectly. Yey!! I will still try your mudcake recipe today, because if that will work out i would much rather use mudcake. My daughter's favourite. From the heart, ThNks for your time with me and my baking woes Mcaulir. I truly appreciate it. ❤
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