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Did I overprice???

post #1 of 26
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So I was asked to make this cake....

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For an 8 inch cake, covered in fondant, with fondant figures, the fondant manhole cover and hand cut fondant decoration, I gave them a price of $115.  There is a lot of detail in this cake.  I told her I could do butter cream with the fondant detail for $100.  I really hate working with fondant and can get my bc nice and smooth that I figure I would offer that option.   I also gave her the option of scaling back the decoration (removing the buildings) for $85.  She is a friend (not a close friend so I didn't discount) and she was very appreciative of my response but found someone to do it for $60...that's right, $60!!  I don't know about the other baker but this cake would take me 4-5 total hours of prep...at $60 minus cost of material, you are paying yourself around $5/hour.  How is that worth it?  My teacher told me years ago, that her cleaning lady gets paid $20/hour so she wants to make $20/hour.  I have kind of stuck with that reference because this is a business, not a hobby.  If I was a hobbyist, maybe $60 would have been sufficient.  Am I way out of the ballpark on this one??

post #2 of 26

I would've come pretty close to that price.  I would've been closer to $90 for my area, but that's a lot of work and sculpting.  I'd love to see what the $60 cake looks like when it's finished...

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post #3 of 26

I agree with CakeRae80... wonder what the $60 cake looked like!  I would say that your price is exactly what I would have charged.  Fondant and gum paste are expensive and so are the ingredients for a cake and the cake board, etc.  I think people forget that cake decorators are really artists - and should be compensated for their talent.  If what they want is a Wal-Mart price, then they should go to Wal-Mart for a cake!

post #4 of 26

no ma'am you did not over price.  People want something for nothing.  I had a wedding cake scheduled for August 3 and when I called to say I had not received her deposit she informed me she had found someone to do it for half the price. I had changed my vacation to accomodate her and she didn't even have the courtesy of cancelling her order.  I was going to do a 300 serving cake for $550.00. I thought that was very reasonable.

post #5 of 26

no ma'am you did not over price.  People want something for nothing.  I had a wedding cake scheduled for August 3 and when I called to say I had not received her deposit she informed me she had found someone to do it for half the price. I had changed my vacation to accomodate her and she didn't even have the courtesy of cancelling her order.  I was going to do a 300 serving cake for $550.00. I thought that was very reasonable.

post #6 of 26

What I've come to realize is, people who don't decorate cakes have no idea how much time is spent on one cake, they think if Kroger, Sams, Costco, Walmart, Publix, etc can sell them a cake for $40 then we can too. 

 

A while back a friend of a friend asked me to make her daughter's first birthday cake and wanted a tiered Minnie mouse cake.  When I quoted her a price she about fell over and told me there is no way she could afford that, someone else had quoted her like $50 or cheaper, something ridiculously low.  (which I don't believe for a minute, because if someone is giving you such a low quote, why are you going to continue shopping around).

Anyways, she went with the other baker and a friend sent me a picture of the cake and it was awful.  It was a single 10 inch round with icing thrown on and 2 6 inch rounds for the ears, flat cake, no tiers.

 

This kind of thing happens in ALL types of businesses...I used to be a makeup artist, women would contact me for a quote, when I would quote them they would say, "oh, this other lady quoted me $25"  Well, ok, if you want to trust a Mary Kay lady who just decided to do this for fun and has been doing it for 3 months, to do your wedding day makeup, more power to you."

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post #7 of 26

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I charged this one for about $90. It was for a friend who has ordered many cakes from me in the past (i've only been at this for about a year). Head is sculpted cereal treats, it's an 8 in cake with the fondant manhole cover and fondant nunchucks. But after all the work into I put into this cake I realized I underpriced (really because of lack of confidence). I didn't mind in this case because I know she will continue to order cakes from me either way.  Stick with your base cost and work your way up with what you think your labor is worth. Do not second guess yourself!

post #8 of 26
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I didn't think so either.  I'm friends with her on facebook so I'll be watching to see if she's posts a picture of the cake.  I just can't imagine it being anything near the caliber of the one in the picture but we'll see.   Thank you all for reassuring me!  It is much appreciated!

post #9 of 26
There's also a copyright issue here, you would need to contact Viacom (the copyright owner for TMNT) to get permission in order to legally sell the cake.
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 

well, i'm glad someone underbid me then.  :-)

post #11 of 26

I was asked to make a cake like that a few weeks ago. I explained the copyright issue and that I could do a background with the cake and then we could add the TMNT (from a licensed source) on the cake. I still was around $100 for the cake she needed so I don't think you overpriced at all! 

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post #12 of 26

I would have charged right about the same price.

I used to take it personally when people would say they found someone to do their cake cheaper ( usually Walmart) until I realized what my time is worth. Now I just let them go and pay for their frozen,  pre-made, unoriginal cakes. That just means extra time with my family on the weekends.

post #13 of 26
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I would have charged right about the same price.

I used to take it personally when people would say they found someone to do their cake cheaper ( usually Walmart) until I realized what my time is worth. Now I just let them go and pay for their frozen,  pre-made, unoriginal cakes. That just means extra time with my family on the weekends.

I agree I don't take it personal if they want a cheap cake.  I look at it that I give them the quote, that is my price and I'm sticking to it.  If they want someone cheaper, then go for it.  I won't be loosing sleep at night over it.

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post #14 of 26
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Oh, I didn't take it personal, just shocked at the difference in price!  I'm not going to beat myself up over it.  Like you have all said, you get what you pay for.  I'm looking forward to what her cake looks like.  I do hope in all honesty that it's not a wreck!  I would feel bad.

post #15 of 26

I just got asked this weekend to make a 3 tier prince themed baby shower cake.  She said that she saw people tag me on a facebook yard sale page and say I was reasonable.  She also asked for a link to my site, so I gave that to her.  Once she looked at my cakes, she wanted a pregnant belly cake with 25 cupcakes.  So I asked her how many people she would have at this party, to which she replied 25.  So I told her 1. I only do orders for cupcakes by the dozen and the cupcakes alone would feed the people coming (because she was inviting 25 so they wouldn't all show probably). 2. I told her that my belly cake would feed about 44 so that with the cupcakes would be 68 servings. 

 

So I quoted her $151 for a belly cake and 24 cupcakes, $121 for the belly cake by itself, $45 for 3 dozen cupcakes with fondant decorations, $69 for a 10" round baby butt cake fondant covered and $55 for a 10" round baby butt cake buttercream covered.  I figured that I'd throw in those other options since she said "reasonable" that way they weren't too much but still gave her the amount of cake she needed.  I never heard back from her....so I'm going to guess that I wasn't "reasonable" after all.

 

I also want to say that I hate that people have tagged me in this facebook page because I don't sell yard sale priced cakes.  Also, what one person thinks is reasonable another might night.  In my area, reasonable usually equals dirt cheap!!  Just thought I'd share in light of your issue you posted about.

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