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post #16 of 123
I was just curious because you said you gave her a cake for $100, that was really worth $200 and it was three tiers.
But it definitely sounds like you know what your doing when it comes to decorating and pricing!

If your happy with your arrangement then keep it going. But if your uncomfortable or curious as to what she's doing with them, next time she wants a tiered cake just insist that you set it up icon_biggrin.gif insert evil laugh
post #17 of 123
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Hey, we do what we gotta do!

http://cottagefoodlaws.com/state-regulations/oregon-cottage-food-law/Oregon has a Cottage Law which allows its citizens to operate a home based bakery or food processing business. For details about small/home food processing contact your local health departments or the state Department of Agriculture.

Baking in a Domestic Kitchen

Domestic kitchen licensing procedures

Oregon Department of Agriculture – Food Safety Division

635 Capitol Street NE
Salem, OR 97301-2532
Phone: 503-986-4720
fsd-expert@oda.state.or.us
http://oregon.gov/ODA/FSD/docs/pdf/pub_domkit.pdf

Food Safety Division – Domestic Kitchens
http://oregon.gov/ODA/FSD/docs/pdf/pub_label_general.pdf

icon_eek.gif *Gasp* Jason, is that you?!! icon_twisted.gif
post #18 of 123
Just a thought, you could get a stamp that says "proudly baked and decorated by such-and-such an
phone number. Maybe even an email address or Facebook/Twitter info for questions/comments. Then stamp it on the cake board right where the cake would sit and put a clear plastic sticker over it.
post #19 of 123
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Annabakes... Aren't Cake Snakes the worst?! They come in all variations. Clueless Cathys, Negotiating Nancys, Buyer's Remorse Randys, and my favorite - the Gutterbutt Gayle.. This is the person that has no real income , spends their state check on luxuries like cell phones and nails while their kids are hungry and look like ragamuffins. Meanwhile they want a 3 tiered blinged out zebra print cake for $ 40. And its not even for their kid, but for themselves! The only people I am easy on is the older generation because I honestly think they just aren't used to the idea of edible art. My 75 year old mother in law was so happy that I made them a cake dor their 40th Anniversary party. 3 tiers, square, intricate piping, cascading gumpaste flowers all the way down. She says " oh Suzie this cake is beautiful! I bet you could sell something like this for over $ 50!" Lol and my sweet MIL! icon_biggrin.gif
post #20 of 123
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Originally Posted by lunawhisper0013 View Post

Just a thought, you could get a stamp that says "proudly baked and decorated by such-and-such an
phone number. Maybe even an email address or Facebook/Twitter info for questions/comments. Then stamp it on the cake board right where the cake would sit and put a clear plastic sticker over it.

That's a really great idea! I already have sticker labels that say " From Suzie's Kitchen" from Etsy but I never thought to have my phone number on there. Thank you:-D
post #21 of 123

I am shocked by those of you that are saying don't rock the boat!??  And confused, too!

 

I thought for sure there would be 100 posts of outrage at the woman ordering the cakes and comments about how insane OP is for doing them for her!  And lots of "how dare she pass her work off as her own"!  Which she may or may not be doing, btw!  She may be giving OP full credit?!  Who knows?  NO ONE, because it wasn't discussed. 

 

I get that she's not a business, but still.  If I found out that someone ordered a cake from me and then possibly re-sold it, there would have to be a tactful convo with the hairdresser...after all, mullets are at stake here.  I hate confrontation, but this would take the proverbial cake!

 

I would excitedly tell the hairdresser that OR has cottage laws that you didn't know about...that you are trying to build up your clientele with the hopes of having a bigger biz, and would like the contact info on the people that she has given OPs cakes to, so that you may introduce yourself and ask for recommendations, and ask that from now on she give you the name of the customer so that you can provide the best customer service to them.  A little DEVIOUS....BUT her reaction will speak VOLUMES as to what's going on!  If she's being legit, you will still get orders...if not, she was passing them off as hers, for sure!

 

Especially if she was making money off of it.  Business or not, we (most of us, I believe) deal with the end customer...we are not wholesalers, are we?  Unless we are selling to a restaurant, of course.

 

Am I the only one bent about this?

 

Maybe it's just different since OH has cottage laws so I do charge full price -- who would re-sell a cake that they've already paid for at retail cost?  No one in their right mind!

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post #22 of 123
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Originally Posted by BeesKnees578 View Post

I am shocked by those of you that are saying don't rock the boat!??  And confused, too!

 

I thought for sure there would be 100 posts of outrage at the woman ordering the cakes and comments about how insane OP is for doing them for her!  And lots of "how dare she pass her work off as her own"!  Which she may or may not be doing, btw!  She may be giving OP full credit?!  Who knows?  NO ONE, because it wasn't discussed. 

 

I get that she's not a business, but still.  If I found out that someone ordered a cake from me and then possibly re-sold it, there would have to be a tactful convo with the hairdresser...after all, mullets are at stake here.  I hate confrontation, but this would take the proverbial cake!

 

I would excitedly tell the hairdresser that OR has cottage laws that you didn't know about...that you are trying to build up your clientele with the hopes of having a bigger biz, and would like the contact info on the people that she has given OPs cakes to, so that you may introduce yourself and ask for recommendations, and ask that from now on she give you the name of the customer so that you can provide the best customer service to them.  A little DEVIOUS....BUT her reaction will speak VOLUMES as to what's going on!  If she's being legit, you will still get orders...if not, she was passing them off as hers, for sure!

 

Especially if she was making money off of it.  Business or not, we (most of us, I believe) deal with the end customer...we are not wholesalers, are we?  Unless we are selling to a restaurant, of course.

 

Am I the only one bent about this?

 

Maybe it's just different since OH has cottage laws so I do charge full price -- who would re-sell a cake that they've already paid for at retail cost?  No one in their right mind!

I'm not too bent because there are so many "if's" in this situation. If there was concrete proof that she was re-selling them, I wouldn't be too happy about it. But how many of us really know if someone who buys one of our cakes passes it off as their own creation? Not necessarily to re-sell, but to get the oohhs and ahhs at their kids' bday party or whatever? I know a few people who buy cookies from a store, re-arrange them on a plate and claim they made them. They paid for them, I know they can't bake, why do I need to "call them out?" I'm not gonna get upset over something that is a "maybe" situation. Bartering is legal in many states, so the OP may not be doing anything wrong for exchanging services. Too many other real problems to worry about!!icon_biggrin.gif

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post #23 of 123
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See, THIS is exactly why I posted the question in the first place. In a way, I really didn't care what she was doing with the cakes, but there was also a nagging doubt in my mind if I was being foolish for not caring. I really expected more people on here to talk me out of doing cakes for her, but to be honest I do like the arrangement and was hoping to rationalize letting it continue. My husband thinks it is really shady that all transactions go thru her and that I never get to see where the cakes go.  I think what I will do is look into getting licensed even if it's just for a handful of cakes per year. That way she can still pass customers my way and I can just pay her for my haircut & color with that extra income. I can also give her an incentive for referrals such as for every certain number of cake leads that get booked thru her, she gets a heavy discount on her next cake or even a small freebie. Thanks You Guys!

post #24 of 123

I'm assuming you get your highlights every 1.5-2 months? And she gets a cake that many times too? That's a lot of cake. What events are these cakes for? birthdays etc?

 

I bet she's flipping them. But you don't really care, so it's not really an issue, is it? I just hope your hair is looking kick a**..it should be with all those cakes.

 

Great idea about you getting licensed though. 

 

good luck!

post #25 of 123
Don't forget that you need to declare the fair market value of the free services you are getting to the IRS as income on Schedule C.

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html
post #26 of 123
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Thanks you guys. My tax geek , who is also my nephew advised me the same way you did Jason! I love all you " Numbers guys"!icon_biggrin.gif
post #27 of 123

here in California, if you are a permitted cottage food operator (or whatever its called), you must have a particular type of permit to sell to a reseller. So if you ever reach that point, please keep that in mind. 

 

my only concern would be liability. if someone gets sick or files a damages claim against the stylist, who is going to get sued? bet your bottom dollar that she points the finger back to you. in that case you need protection. I guess I would ask. if you're ok with the arrangement, then I would lead with that info, but consider your family and what you own...

 

jen

post #28 of 123
Since there is mixed reviews, I vote you show us your hair, and the hair of your children, to see if this is worth it or not icon_wink.gif you can post a new thread, and add a survey where people can vote yea or nay... Just kidding. I do want to see you hair, though!
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post #29 of 123

Before I even finished reading your post I said to myself, "she is selling the cakes as her own". Obviously, unless you confront her about it you don't know this for sure. If you are bothered by it, then confront her, and if you are OK about the arrangement, then I guess whether she is doing it or not is moot. I do think the actions you described sound shady, and personally I do think she is probably selling you cakes as your own. If this were me it would royally tick me off.

 

Here is the part of this arrangement that really gets me. It is NOT that you are exchanging services. I think that is great, and it sounds like you both have a good "value" set for your service exchanges. It is also NOT that she may be passing your cakes off as her own, because as other posters have said, people buy stuff from the grocery store all the time and say they made it. The problem that I have with it is that if she is selling your cakes and is profiting from it. She didn't "buy" the cake from a store and said she made it. She got the cake for free from you and then turned around and sold it and made money off it. So you may have exchanged a $200 cake for a $200 cut and color, but then she turned around sold it for $200 and made a profit from your work. Plus I just don't care for the shadyness or the fact that if she is selling them she is deceiving the people buying them.

 

So that is my 2 cents on the topic. I do once again want to preference that although this all sounds shady on her part, it is possible she is NOT doing what you suspect and thus you really just need to confront her on it to know for sure. Also, it sounds like you are awesome at baking/decorating and should seriously look into doing a small business with it! Good luck.

 

P.S. I don't understand the hard-to-find hairstylist issues brought up. Both my mother and sister are very talented hairstylists, and I am not just saying that because we're related! ;)

post #30 of 123

If she's saying they're for someone else, tell her you'll at least need to be reimbursed for materials, since there is a lot of work involved in doing these cakes and its taking away from other "business" (what difference will she really know) you have to do.  This will either stop it or tell her you'll have to deliver because you have other things going on.  Make it difficult for her to work you over, and really... your getting a bum deal here, haircuts/colours bottom line costs for her are not even close to what you're shelling out for materials. 

 

Don't make it easy for her and make sure she knows what kind of costs this is for you!  She's taking advantage of you :(

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