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post #16 of 100

SCREAMING right now!  I just did a long post to you and it didn't post...UGH!!!  Synopsis below!  Grrrrr....

 

Anyway, see pic.  Tell her how awesome and fun they are and you want that to show in the cake....try to get her to ditch the elegant idea and go with whimsical.  I know you have tried, but just trying to help...

 

 

Maybe my longer one will post?  Maybe it took a little longer to upload and I am being impatient!

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post #17 of 100

So glad to see this thread. I went through this same thing last weekend. I had a graduation cake that I was all set to design very nice and simply, when the graduate gave me a sketch in crayon of what she wanted. It was a hodge podge of every activity she took part in in high school. It was far too much. I did the best I could but it wasn't something that I felt 1,000% great about.

 

When I finished it, I vowed to myself that while I welcome creative input from clients, for integrity's sake I need to retain creative control. From here on, if a design doesn't fit aesthetically, I will recommend a different route that we each can agree on.

post #18 of 100

My original DID post afterall! icon_biggrin.gif

 

PS  I seriously question your friend's definition of "elegant".  I was under the impression that elegant DID NOT include tubes of lipstick and nail polish and football!

 

Good luck with this completely Bi-Polar Cake....I am sure it will turn out lovely.

 

And please, no backlash on the bi-polar comment....it's said in jest with the full knowledge that it's not a funny issue.  Lacking the right word, I guess.  Maybe oxymoronic?  Paradoxical? Those aren't right, either!

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post #19 of 100
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Originally Posted by BeesKnees578 View Post

Yes...WOW!  Is it possible to make an elegantly gaudy cake?  That's what she's asking for, right? 

 

I think you should convince her to ditch the idea of "elegant" and go for "whimsical"....tell her that the rest of her wedding may be elegant, but this cake is where she really needs to let her casual personality show through...tell her how AWESOME and FUN she and her fiance are and that you really want THAT to come through on the cake.  Tell them that you will prepare some of the flowers and stick them in if you need a filler, but you aren't 100% sure that they will look right.  Explain that it's your biz name on the line and don't want to put anything out there that doesn't look good...she wouldn't want to tarnish your name, right?  ASK her to TRUST YOU AND YOUR ARTISTIC EXPERIENCE.  The last thing you want her to say is...Oh, that DOES look bad.  I shoulda listened! 

 

I'm sure you've done all of this, or some version of it, just trying to help!

 

Would doing the squares with the corner at the front of the cake table help with the division of he-said, she-said elements?  Make the left side him and the right side her.  Maybe on one of the tiers, toward the front corner that's pointing forward...nevermind.  SEE SKETCH...much easier that way!

 

Good luck and can't wait to see pics!


love this post and I'm not doing this cake.  The visual really works and advice are excellent.

post #20 of 100
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I'm glad i came here for advice. I was feeling like a horrible person for not wanting to make the cake she wants. To make matters worse i just realized the topper wont fit... or maybe thats a good thing! I,m going to try to sketch something out this afternoon. I can totally see this being pulled together with whimsical flowers and ribbon roses. I told my hubby i will take pics of tge cake before i put on any of the elements!!
post #21 of 100
What about on the biggest tier at the bottom, make it the his and hers elements. Then the rest of the tiers you can make it the elegant part with the flowers.
post #22 of 100

I cringed looking at the sketch. 

 

I am always up front and say we will work together to create a cake you will be happy with and one that will represent my work.  I ask what did they have in mind and then gather up pictures and include some that I thought was nice that may be different then she had in mind.  I would never do a cake that is a bad reflection on me.

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post #23 of 100
That sucks. I was going to recommend a groom's cake until I saw you had already suggested it. Maybe steer her in a different direction. Ask her what they like to do together. Hiking, camping, swimming, watching tv. Something. Then do a cake around that idea. I would prefer that then a hodge podge of our individuality. Isn't it all about two becoming one anyway? Of course the risk you take is her wanting to slap that idea into the already horrible ideas she has. icon_sad.gif
post #24 of 100
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Originally Posted by pouchet82 View Post

I'm glad i came here for advice. I was feeling like a horrible person for not wanting to make the cake she wants. To make matters worse i just realized the topper wont fit... or maybe thats a good thing! I,m going to try to sketch something out this afternoon. I can totally see this being pulled together with whimsical flowers and ribbon roses. I told my hubby i will take pics of tge cake before i put on any of the elements!!


I really believe working on a sketch and showing your friend is a great tool.  Did she by any chance bring you pictures of anything?

post #25 of 100
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So I've been trying to sketch out the cake and I realize that it is a lost cause. I spoke with my friend last night and she wants what she wants. She was also trying to tell me how to assemble the cake and to make the tiers higher icon_mad.gif. I told her it's going to be done my way unless she wants the cake toppling down during the reception. She was being so demanding I almost told her to go find someone else to make the cake. Her and her fiance are so worried about the cost, I'm only charging her for the ingredients for the cake and my husband and I are putting money towards it too as their gift. If she thinks she's going to get a 5 tier wedding cake for under 300$ elsewhere I would like some of what she has been smoking icon_rolleyes.gif. I'm attaching a pic of the topper, and I apologize for my comments before, it is worse than cringe-worthy. icon_eek.gif Some people really put the @ss in class...

 

 

 

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post #26 of 100
I know you'll be getting ready for your friend's wedding, but is there any way you can take all the little accent pieces with you to the venue and have her see them before they're attached? Ie take her an elegant cake, then have her approve it being gauded up when it's in front of her face?
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post #27 of 100
Okay call me crazy but I honestly thought it was going to be worse lol I've actually seen worse. I think you can work with this instead of splitting the cake down the middle as his and hers I think you should lean more in the direction of giving them each their own tier. So the bottom tier would be hers and the middle tier would be his and the top tier could be a simple elegant wedding tier maybe you could also just leave it plain and just do a simple finish on it with luster dust to give it a glow but you don't want to much fuss becuase you have that cake topper and it would clash, so you need to stick with a color that will go nicely with all three tiers like ivory or just white and then you can go ahead and decorate the tiers with their elements. For her tier since she wants a girly theme you could do sometime of design that incorporates pearls with lipstick, shoes, etc. but keep the colors light not the traditional hot pink/purple that is often used lol and then for his tier since he has that big helmet for the topper I think it should be simple like you could probably do a printout or cutout in fondant that spells out buffalo bills around the cake and then maybe add in a few of the elements that he wants, try to get more details of things that he likes besides the buffalo bills because you could also use some other things that may be more interesting. I think you should leave off the bow and if you use flowers do a little bit maybe one or two on top with the cake topper It may sound a little off but I think you get the idea of what I'm trying to convey to you so that you can go ahead and come up with something that not only she will like but you will like as well.
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post #28 of 100

I have done a few cakes that I hated! Lately though, I just tell customers that I personally don't think I would want it such and such way because it will be to gawdy ect. Usually they are like oh I think you are right.
 

post #29 of 100

The only cakes I have seen done like this are half normal wedding cake other half having tire treads and mud look to one side. But they still had a grooms cake. Can you convince her of that?

Maybe to make less little things the grooms cake could be the foot ball field with a football going towards the wedding cake with dirt splashed on the one side. I think this is still hideous but to me seems less cluttered.

http://cakecentral.com/t/756470/standing-tire-wedding-cake

Here is a pic of the cake I saw. So you could do the same idea only instead of a tire it could be a football.

JMHO as long as a cake is executed well ie pristine corners,figures look real, I never judge the decorator. I always know its not the decorators wedding its the brides and I know she chose the cake. I do think a more simple idea like the one above would also get you more orders of the same cake. You could also pass it off as unique because I haven't seen another cake like this.

post #30 of 100
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So I've come up with a design that I am comfortable with and that my friend loves. I think now that she sees my vision of whimsical, she sees how it will work with all her elements. I hope my sketch attaches!
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