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post #46 of 62
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And based on what I've read, the bride seems like one of those people who will never appreciate the magnitude of what they are putting on the OP. Even if OP offers the deepest discount ever, they would still complain about something. Such vultures to drop this on a teenager.

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post #47 of 62
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Maybe if you tell them they have to help pay for the ingredients that go into making that huge masterpiece, they may change their minds!  How would you gift that huge cake or cakes?? Would you pay for it? Or your parents? I'm just wondering who would take the responsibility of paying that enormous bill to serve 1500 people cake! That sounds like a nightmare!! 1500 people??  They must be a very popular couple! Good luck with whatever you do! You sound like you have a great plan in place! I didn't read all the comments so sorry if you've already answered my questions!! icon_smile.gif

Since i am studying for baker i don't want to involve my parends in this huge cake. I never involve my parents and i always do it well because people pay for the cake. So neither i or my parents will pay if they refuse than its a cake at another bakery or no cake at all! I just realize that i actually can't belive the greedyness of these people
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post #48 of 62

Most people will pay for a cake because they understand all the hard work that it requires.  Then there are those types of people that want everything for FREE.  Very greedy people, indeed.  They are trying to take advantage of you.  I think that if they paid for the cake, they would find every reason wrong with it and complain so they that they wouldn't have to pay or get a huge discount.  

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post #49 of 62
If they persist, maybe you can write the shopping list required for 1500 servings of cake, and have them go to Albert Heijn to see how much 150kg of butter and 300 eggs costs (no idea how many it actually is but it's got to be up there). An estimate of time and other costs should make it clearer for them if they're not getting it.

I'd doubt most retail bakeries with staff would consider taking on 10 wedding cakes for 150 servings each all for the same date and they expect one person at home to do it?
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post #50 of 62
I would suggest providing a nice tiered cake that would be the centerpiece for photos, of whatever size you feel comfortable making. Explain that you don't have the capability to make anything more than that. It takes oven space, refrigerator space, freezer space, vehicle space, all of which will be limiting factors. My oven will not accommodate larger than a 16" round, and my freezer space limits me to about 250 servings max. (i bake all my cakes ahead and freeze). I don't think they could find fault with that. It is an equipment/facility issue, not that you wouldn't be willing to do it. They could then find a bakery to supply the appropriate number of kitchen cakes. that would be more fun for you as well as you could then just concentrate on the show piece cake. If you must do it all, plan, plan, plan. Make everything ahead of time and freeze as much as you can. Find people who an lend freezer space. Also, find people to fill and frost the kitchen cakes, since that is easier, but will take a huge amount of time. I hope it works out for you.
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post #51 of 62
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 they really think I'm just a stupid teenager who doesn't knows anything about money! well they are wrong! but I don't know how to tell them I won't do it cause I just don't want to work with these greedy people without making them mad, not that I care about them being mad but I don't want to make family problems.

 

It really annoys me that because off this there is a chance people will say I'm to young to take cake orders while I never had a customer who wasn't pleased about the cake and I already had a lot of customers the last 2 years.

 

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Since i am studying for baker i don't want to involve my parents in this huge cake. I never involve my parents and i always do it well because people pay for the cake.

I have been admiring your work for a while now and know that you have consistent, professional, cakes.  You are very inspiring, and I especially love that you are doing this ON YOUR OWN.  You are light-years away from being a "stupid teenager", and appear to have the business aspects of cake decorating well in hand.

 

I agree with Yortma's post above:  "Explain that you don't have the capability to make anything more than [250 servings max] ... your home-based custom bakery does not have the oven space, refrigerator space, freezer space, or vehicle space; all of which will be limiting factors. "   This is a courteous, truthful, and professional response from a seasoned baker (you!) to a potential customer who will require the services of a large, commercial bakery that can handle the logistics of a 1500 serving cake order.

 

This response would also eliminate any possibility that "people will say I'm to young to take cake orders",  because it shows a very high level of professionalism to be aware of the logistical limitations for a home kitchen.

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I have been admiring your work for a while now and know that you have consistent, professional, cakes.  You are very inspiring, and I especially love that you are doing this ON YOUR OWN.  You are light-years away from being a "stupid teenager", and appear to have the business aspects of cake decorating well in hand.

I agree with Yortma's post above:  "Explain that you don't have the capability to make anything more than [250 servings max] ... your home-based custom bakery does not have the oven space, refrigerator space, freezer space, or vehicle space; all of which will be limiting factors. "   This is a courteous, truthful, and professional response from a seasoned baker (you!) to a potential customer who will require the services of a large, commercial bakery that can handle the logistics of a 1500 serving cake order.

This response would also eliminate any possibility that "people will say I'm to young to take cake orders",  because it shows a very high level of professionalism to be aware of the logistical limitations for a home kitchen.

First off all, thank you so much for your kind words!And I will follow the advise to say I won't make a cake bigger than 250 servings
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post #53 of 62
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First off all, thank you so much for your kind words!And I will follow the advise to say I won't make a cake bigger than 250 servings


And make sure they know they have to pay full price for all of those servings or will only be receiving a discount that is equal to what you'd normally spend on a wedding gift.

 

And while it sounds like you are handling this just fine, Since you are just 16, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of having your parents step in on this one if the bride and groom start giving you a hard time.  Clearly they think they can try and pull one over on you or they may try and guilt you into making the cake since you're just a "kid."  I know you said you keep your parents out of it but in this case to keep peace in the family and to keep you from being pressured I think it would be ok for one of your parents (whoever has the bigger backbone and isn't going to take crap from the family lol) to have a conversation with the bride and groom and tell them they can either take your offer or leave it.

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post #54 of 62

1500 guests, I can't even imagine making a cake that big!

post #55 of 62
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UPDATE!!

I spoke to the couple a few days ago, i rearly see them and this was at a funeral, i know thats not the best time to talk about a wedding cake lol!
The wedding is the 14 of May.

The number of guests is putten way down from 1500 to 750 and now its 325, pff its so anoying. they are pretty sure now the numer of guest is under 500. I allready told them the maximum discount i will give them is 10%, they seemed cool with it.

Can someone tell me what cake sizes i should do, i know they really want the biggest cake thats possible so i will do the oldschool style with the stairs and fountain and all those stuff because then the cake can really appear big.
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post #56 of 62
You could suggest that they supplement with other desserts. Being Italian, our weddings are not complete without those Italian wedding cookies or canoli's. I make my canoli's small, and you could even fill them there. Both the canoli shells and the cookies can be make weeks ahead of time and frozen with no problem. And if if you didn't make the cookies, they could always buy them at a store (less work for you). Plus variety is always nice! icon_smile.gif
post #57 of 62

wowzers

I would definitely do a large display only cake made with faux tiers

and then kitchen cakes for cutting 

you could do 20 three layer half sheet cakes, that would feed about 75 guests per cake if you cut industry standard of 1"x 2"

then there is the issue of storing 20 cakes. You will likely need a commercial kitchen space or a large deep freezer at the least. 

with a large deep freezer you can bake and freeze all the layers ahead of time and then defrost, fill, stack and ice the day of.

Van rental is a must, you should be able to rent a utility van for about 90$ plus gas and maybe mileage. you'll have to work out your best option with the rental place, of course

you can do it, just pleassseee don't undercut yourself for payment. This is a huge undertaking and family or not you deserve to be compensated properly

best of luck :)

post #58 of 62

ps just read your update, under 500 is much much more doable

but id still suggest a display only cake and then kitchen cakes. 

if you had exactly 500 guests you need about 7 kitchen cakes

and you could make the display cake as large and in charge as they wanted

post #59 of 62

No matter what the serving amount is in the end, be sure you get payment for the cake at least  two weeks and a month would be better before the wedding date.   Let them know that no check, no cake, and cash the check to make sure it is good.  I have the feeling that if you do not get paid before hand, you will not get paid after the fact.  "After all you're a relative and you will understand that they can't afford to pay you right now"  Which actually means you will never be paid.  So NO CHECK NO CAKE!  Good Luck

post #60 of 62

Glad to hear they trimmed the list down! It's still a huge project. I wish you the best of luck. :)

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