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I'm Going To Scream!

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So, I'm going nuts seeing other cakers in my area. I just looked at one Facebook page where the owner does some of the sloppiest work. Cupcakes iced unbelievably messy, cakes that a monkey couldn't ice that bad. I get that she obviously is no competition for me, but I really want to shake her and tell her that she needs practice before she presents her products to the public looking like they do. Not to mention that her prices were somewhere around $1.25 per cupcake. Maybe that's what they're worth, but it's still irritating.

The other girl's page I saw is selling cupcakes for $1 each. Cake pops for .50 EACH. Cakes, I think, were like $1.50 per serving!! I am so frustrated to see prices that cheap. I charge $3.50+ per serving because I have actually done my homework, know my costs, understand my surrounding market, and want to make money. The crazy thing is, the second girl graduated from culinary school and apparently still has no grasp of costs and market. Don't they teach some sort of business in school? When I was in beauty school, I had some business classes I had to take to understand my business.

I wish I could tell these people how much they are hurting the people who are serious about making a viable business. Grrrrr!!

Am I wrong to be frustrated? There are a few pro cakers with storefronts in the area (none in my particular town, but a few nearby), but it seems like everyday I hear about another illegal caker in town who charges too little. Meanwhile, I get zero confirmed orders for weeks because people don't want to pay my prices. So-and-so down the street can do it for a dollar a serving!

OK. I feel better. Just wanted to vent to others who understand.

post #2 of 24

Totally get it icon_biggrin.gif.

post #3 of 24

You are SO not alone! 

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post #4 of 24

I don't sell my cakes but I know how much I spend on ingredients.  I just made some cake pops to bring to my niece's graduation party and I would not sell them for .50 each.  Too much expense and time involved in making them.  These people cannot be making a profit and I don't think they can afford to keep selling their goods for that price for very long.  Even if they are using a mix which I believe ends up being cheaper than scratch baking, I still can't see much profit.   If I ever decide to actual turn this hobby into a business, I know I cannot afford to sell them for that price.  

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I don't sell my cakes but I know how much I spend on ingredients.  I just made some cake pops to bring to my niece's graduation party and I would not sell them for .50 each. 

I know, right??? Cake pops are a PAIN in the BUTT, no way I am charging that little for them! 

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post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by LoveMeSomeCake615 View Post

I know, right??? Cake pops are a PAIN in the BUTT, no way I am charging that little for them! 

Totally agree with you.  I just wanted to try making them because I love to try new things.  Don't think I'm going to be making them often.  Hopefully the family won't start asking for them. lol

post #7 of 24
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I do everything I can not to do cake pops! What a chore! And to think of charging .50 each is crazy!
post #8 of 24
I'd rather have no orders for weeks than spend every minute of the day doing orders that I under priced so badly that it's costing me money to make the darn things.
elsewhere.
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elsewhere.
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post #9 of 24
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Totally agree with you.  I just wanted to try making them because I love to try new things.  Don't think I'm going to be making them often.  Hopefully the family won't start asking for them. lol

Hahaha, I know, whenever we get an order for cake pops, I cringe a little. 

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I'd rather have no orders for weeks than spend every minute of the day doing orders that I under priced so badly that it's costing me money to make the darn things.

PREACH! thumbs_up.gif

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post #10 of 24
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Yeah, I hear crickets pretty often after I quote a price. I'm OK not being booked solid with cheap cake orders. I need the money, but appreciate the value of my time and efforts.
post #11 of 24
Report them. Now that there is a CFL in CA there is no excuse not to be operating legally.

BTW I just wrote an article about pricing, market value, and economic damage, the link is in my signature.
post #12 of 24
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Reporting them to the health department isn't necessarily the solution. I'm sure a few cakers are operating legally. The problem is in pricing with most of them. The health department doesn't manage that aspect. It's like we need some entity to go around educating people about business/expenses. Jason, can you take a road trip north??
I saw a lady selling decorated cakes starting at like $20 for a 8" round. Of course, I also saw in her *very professional* pictures, cans if Betty Crocker canned frosting, tubes of writing gel (or whatever it is), messes all around her cakes, and a dusty TV. I can't believe anybody could take this 'business owner' seriously. But if they're legal as far as the health department goes, what are you gonna do?
post #13 of 24

If I were you, I would just order up about 200 cake pops, in various colors and flavors, packaged individually, with a quick turnaround and donate them to a nursing home.  And be a real PITA during the whole order.  Maybe ask if you could have a tasting first to make sure the cakes are moist??   Maybe she would decide to raise her prices after that.

 

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post #14 of 24
Liz, Brilliant!

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It's never "just cake!"

 

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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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post #15 of 24
Liz - I like the way you think icon_smile.gif

Life's too short to make cake pops.
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Life's too short to make cake pops.
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