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Have wilton changed the design of the Stand up cuddly bear Pan?

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Hi

My OH bought me this pan yesterday for my Birthday from a reputable company. I have wanted one of these for ages. I was disappointed when I opened the box as it doesn't look like the pictures on the wilton website or the website of the retailer wher he bought it.

 

The bears feet are pointing forward  not out to the side and there is hardly any definition on the arms, it also has a weird ridge around the edge  and the bear seems small in comparison to the size of the tin( lots of wasted space surrounding the actual bear. there is also a weird opening to fill it, which once baked and full of cake will need to be carved off. one of the reasons i asked for this was not to have to carve a bear LOL.

I have attached some pictures, what do you all think?

 

Wilton Website picture

 

 

 

 

Pictures of the front and back of the box and the pan itself. ( sorry about the quality taken with my ipad!)

post #2 of 59
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any help  anyone?

i've emailed Wilton

has anyone bought the pan recently in UK or elsewhere? which way are the bears feet pointing?

post #3 of 59
I have this pan, the one you received is either an updated version, or its a counterfeit product. I'd recommend calling or emailing Wilton in the USA to ask directly, because your pan does not even match the image on the box it come in.
post #4 of 59
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Thanks I've emailed wilton, waiting for a reply from them. I'm really upset it cost my OH £26.99

post #5 of 59
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Rang the store where i bought it and thay have confired their other stock looks like the one i bought. They agreed with me that it does not match the packaging etc and have offered me a full refund. They are going to contact wilton also as they said they had a long wait for their last delivery of this item

post #6 of 59

It is probably a counterfeit. I saw a documentary not long ago about China taking all of the name brand things and trying to duplicate it but at a cheaper level. They said on the documentary that American companies know they are doing it but because they sell them cheaper to them they just buy them and save themselves money.  They said they copied all kinds of things from clothes, golfing, toys, etc.  They also said  that these counterfeit things did not measure up to the real brand of things.  They said that about 60 percent of things that the USA buys are not the real things. Pretty disgusting that a lot of times we don't get what we pay for!!!
 

Your pan obviously does not match the picture!!!

post #7 of 59
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I've had a replyto the email i sent to Wilton requesting pictures of the pan i received. sent them watch this space!

post #8 of 59

I just checked the Wilton website and the pan looks exactly the same as the one my mother bought in 1974 (and she still has it).

 

http://www.wilton.com/shapedpan/Stand-Up-Cuddly-Bear-Pan

 

I would like to know what happened because your pan is obviously a fake. The place you purchased it from has got a big problem with their supplier. The box doesn't look right either - in the pic you posted the bear's left hand is in its mouth whereas in both pans the right hand is in its mouth.

post #9 of 59
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I agree the bear is left handed on one and right handed on the other LOL. The box is also flimsy compared to the ones my other wilton pans came in and the pan seems much lighter too  than the other pan  I have (the tasty fill heart pan which is stamped Wilton on both parts)

 

Can I just ask Mariel9898 is the pan your mother bought stamped at all with anything like the model number or with the Wilton name?

 

 

The shop said they were also going to contact Wilton.

 

I sent off my pictures to Wilton yesterday. Just waiting for a reply- The problem is the time difference I am in the UK so Wilton seem to be 6 hrs behind, so i guess i'll get a reply around 9.00pm GMT like i did last night.

post #10 of 59

I just went out to the bakery and checked mine. On the top, on the little support doo-hickey that rests on the cookie sheet while it bakes, it says WILTON CHINA 502-518. Mine looks just about nothing like the one you have. There is nothing to that right arm, on yours! And the legs are stubs! I think the picture on the box, that shows it using the opposite arm, is just the picture flipped, for artistic value, and balance, as mine is using the opposite arm as well.

 

And as far as counterfeiting goes, what do companies expect? If they want their stuff to NOT be copied, they need to have it made in the country they live in, and support jobs. The Chinese counterfeiters are using the same equipment and materials that they're being paid to use to produce the originals, just with a bit less quality, and slightly different manner.  It is no different that if I worked for Burger King, and didn't ring up the orders and pocketed the money myself, then made my Whopper with a smaller burger and different dressing, with no pickle, lol! It is basically the same, but the inventor makes no money and it is somewhat "lacking" in quality, but generally still works, even if it slowly poisons you...

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post #11 of 59
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Originally Posted by Annabakescakes View Post

I just went out to the bakery and checked mine. On the top, on the little support doo-hickey that rests on the cookie sheet while it bakes, it says WILTON CHINA 502-518. Mine looks just about nothing like the one you have. There is nothing to that right arm, on yours! And the legs are stubs! I think the picture on the box, that shows it using the opposite arm, is just the picture flipped, for artistic value, and balance, as mine is using the opposite arm as well.

 

And as far as counterfeiting goes, what do companies expect? If they want their stuff to NOT be copied, they need to have it made in the country they live in, and support jobs. The Chinese counterfeiters are using the same equipment and materials that they're being paid to use to produce the originals, just with a bit less quality, and slightly different manner.  It is no different that if I worked for Burger King, and didn't ring up the orders and pocketed the money myself, then made my Whopper with a smaller burger and different dressing, with no pickle, lol! It is basically the same, but the inventor makes no money and it is somewhat "lacking" in quality, but generally still works, even if it slowly poisons you...

Thanks for checking for me.

 

mine actually has stamped on the support  c Wilton visit www.Wilton.com for replacement label (which makes no sense)

 

Just noticed the copyright Wilton bit its soooooo feint.

 

I agree re the picture flipping and you are right it has stuby legs and poorly defined arms. It also has a cylinder like it between the bears legs, level with the bottom of his legs below his tummy  which means to fill his legs this bit will fill with cake. To carve this away would lose support from the bottom of the cake. If left in place what would it look like?!

 

Re counterfeiting I agree what do these companies expect if they move their manufacturing overseas-they should be supporting the local economy and jobs. I have another Wilton pan ( how sad is it that i only have one LOL, but i am a hobby baker) which is made in China( tasty fill heart pan) but its better quality so i assume its one of the real ones made under licence rather than a counterfeit one.

 

I also have some  invicta pans made here in the UK 30 miles from where i live and they are fab and will last 4 ever.

 

I dont have many tins, but i do try to buy the best quality i can afford. I thought by buying wilton I was doing this obviously not

 

oooh parcel just delivered with a picture of an airbrush on the side OH must have bought it for my birthday as well as a surprise. Seems to be industrial strength it weighs a ton LOL

post #12 of 59
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Thanks for checking for me.

 

mine actually has stamped on the support  c Wilton visit www.Wilton.com for replacement label (which makes no sense) No sense, at all!

 

Just noticed the copyright Wilton bit its soooooo feint.

 

I agree re the picture flipping and you are right it has stuby legs and poorly defined arms. It also has a cylinder like it between the bears legs, level with the bottom of his legs below his tummy  which means to fill his legs this bit will fill with cake. To carve this away would lose support from the bottom of the cake. If left in place what would it look like?! It would look like he is siting on what my grandmother calls a "pile" (Like,"The dog left a pile under the coffee table.")

 

Re counterfeiting I agree what do these companies expect if they move their manufacturing overseas-they should be supporting the local economy and jobs. I have another Wilton pan ( how sad is it that i only have one LOL, but i am a hobby baker) which is made in China( tasty fill heart pan) but its better quality so i assume its one of the real ones made under licence rather than a counterfeit one. Wilton has different quality pans, their Performance series and cheap aluminum. 

 

I also have some  invicta pans made here in the UK 30 miles from where i live and they are fab and will last 4 ever.

 

I dont have many tins, but i do try to buy the best quality i can afford. I thought by buying wilton I was doing this obviously not. Wilton should never be accused of being "quality". most products are totally disposable. 

 

oooh parcel just delivered with a picture of an airbrush on the side OH must have bought it for my birthday as well as a surprise. Seems to be industrial strength it weighs a ton LOL   OHH! He knows the way to your heart! But what does 'OH' stand for?

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post #13 of 59
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Annabakescakes you have made me howl with laughter

 

LOL

Pile1

ROTFL icon_biggrin.gif  I thought it would look like that too great description Pile LOL  a bear pile is obviously larger than a dog pile icon_biggrin.gif

 

OH = other half!!! or Old husband

post #14 of 59
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Originally Posted by Peanut66 View Post

Annabakescakes you have made me howl with laughter

 

LOL

Pile1

ROTFL icon_biggrin.gif  I thought it would look like that too great description Pile LOL  a bear pile is obviously larger than a dog pile icon_biggrin.gif

 

OH = other half!!! or Old husband

HAHA! I am just the one to say it! And I would certainly think so ;-)

 

In the US, it is DH, Dear Husband, but I like OH better, since he is often far from being dear!

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post #15 of 59
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No update from Wilton- I sent the  picture they requested.

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