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Charging for undecorated cakes

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Compared to prices for decorated cakes, I'm curious what folks charge for undecorated. I have a request for a bunch of simple layer cakes for an event -- lemon cake, berry filling, buttercream frosting -- and I am clueless about what to charge. Compared to decorated cakes, how should I go about pricing such an order?

 

Thanks!


~Valerie

post #2 of 23
We price undecorated cakes the same as cakes with basic decorations.
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post #3 of 23

My starting price for a simple 8" butter cream cake with a border is $25. I charge the same thing for an undecorated cake as well. 

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Janani65 you change about $1 a serving? How do you make any money?

I charge $2.75 for a simple design and for a dessert style layer cake, I charge $1.90 a serving, since I don't even smooth them.

I would rather make 1 cake for $150, than 3 for $50 each.

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I would rather make 1 cake for $150, than 3 for $50 each.

The person who works for nothing will always have plenty to do!

My sarcasm is good-humored. People generally really like me, in person ;-) 

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post #5 of 23

It is the Price here. If I'm doing a custom cake I charge about $1.75 per serving. and double the amount for fondant.

FYI: My servings for a 8' is about 15 pieces from the 

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Wow, how do you get an 8' cake through the door? Lol very few people go by party sizes, and those who do will eventually burn out. I don't know your skill level, but I suggest that if you are licensed, if it is required, start trying to raise the bar in your area. Those prices are terrible, and I wouldn't turn my oven on for $25 for a 24 serving cake.

I would rather make 1 cake for $150, than 3 for $50 each.

The person who works for nothing will always have plenty to do!

My sarcasm is good-humored. People generally really like me, in person ;-) 

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I would rather make 1 cake for $150, than 3 for $50 each.

The person who works for nothing will always have plenty to do!

My sarcasm is good-humored. People generally really like me, in person ;-) 

Licensed, inspected, insured, home-based commercial...

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post #7 of 23

Hey my mistake 8" :)

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I have thought so too... This pricing I learnt from an experience baker here. I hardly abide by. Her per serving price is $1.65. I'm doing a 3 tier birthday Cake today. I went by the wilton wedding cake serving size and charged per serving. Her cupcake is $1 and I charge $1.75 each. Was thinking I'm charging too much. Good to know I'm not. 

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My starting price for a simple 8" butter cream cake with a border is $25. I charge the same thing for an undecorated cake as well. 
Have you calculated your hourly wage based on that price? For example, if the ingredients cost $10, overhead is $5, and your markup is 20%, you have $6 left for labor. So if you can complete the order in 30 minutes (including prep, baking, decorating, and cleanup) that's a respectable wage of $12/hour, but if it takes you 2 hours start-to-finish you are making $3/hour.

15 servings is about right for a party cake (which is what a single 8" round would usually be).
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post #10 of 23

For ingredients it's cost me about $7. I'm doing from home. So, the only overhead I have is electricity. For everything I take about 1.30 hours. 

 

My initial price for 8" was $35 for 20 servings. When that lady told me She charges only $25 I got a little concerned. She is actually my teacher and she has been doing that for several years now.

 

Almost all the cakes I did were custom cakes which required a lot of work. So I have not actually charged this price from anybody. Pricing is still confusing to me. I learnt a lot from reading cakecentral forum. That is how I actually did my initial pricing. Any advice on pricing I will take with a lot of gratitude. And when I calculate pricing I pay me $10/hour. 

 

 

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So, the only overhead I have is electricity.
You are legally required to at least have a business license from your municipality. There is also the money you pay for an accountant (or accounting/tax software), money spent developing your web site, and advertising expenses. There's also business liability insurance...it's not a legal requirement, but it is dangerous to operate a business without one (especially a business where you sell food).
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I checked with the Ohio health department, they assured I don't need license. However, I need to get the insurance. I need to account for advertising, that's something I forgot. I'm still starting out. So, website and the accounting software expenses are yet to come.

But I really need to get the insurance. I read in several posts in cake central about that.
post #13 of 23

why can't my county be like ohio

 

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if you have renter's insurance or home owner's it's as easy as a phone call to your ins agent

they might come take some photos no biggie at all

 

best of the best to you!!!

 
 

 

 

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I have renter's insurance... Will call them first thing tomorrow morning... Thanks K8memphis... I was going around checking other insurance options... icon_smile.gif just two months in the business... I must say everything I learned about the business, I learnt from cake central... When in doubt... Always check with cake central members... icon_smile.gif.

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Liability insurance is very reasonable.  When I was working out of my home (licensed so no worries) I had a one million dollar policy and it costs under $300 for the year. 

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