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post #16 of 50

I hear your pain. 

 

I'd liken it to her asking you to build a detailed scale model--without the kit because you'll need to size & cut all of the pieces out yourself--of the plane.  Most model makers spend WEEKS working on these types of things.

 

Mike McCarey of mikesamazingcakes.com specializes in these types of cakes.  He's also one of the friendliest people you'll ever meet.  I bet if you shot him an e-mail with some of the basics, his reply would be very helpful.

 

As for the client, I'd just tell them what I CAN do for $150 and 30 servings.  In my market, that would be a very basic carved plane (more cartoon than model) using the Wilton Long Loaf pan.  They either take it or leave it.

 

And yes, the next time, more questions first--and provide some gentle education and information about your business practices and pricing.  You need to know their budget as much as they need to understand your pricing.

 

I do EVERYTHING by e-mail.  You can't argue easily with the written word.

 

Rae

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post #17 of 50

Yeah, my baby grand piano is certainly not marketed at $30/serving. But if you want to break it down, yes, that is what it would be. But $30/serving is a scary sounding number. The total price for a labor intensive project is easier to swallow.

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post #18 of 50
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Originally Posted by ellavanilla View Post

 

Isn't Duff's minimum around $1500?

That minimum probably buys you more than just a 9 inch cake.  Unless it is an incredibly detailed masterpiece.  And gold.  Either way, he does have that pesky tv show and the whole name brand thing.  So, yes, he probably charges more than us who are not on tv.  I was referring to the fact that although the people that watch those shows don't have any idea how much they cost, they could probably never imagine a $50 per serving price tag. 

I homeschool because I've seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.

 

http://whynotethiopia2.blogspot.com/

 

 

I homeschool because I've seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.

 

http://whynotethiopia2.blogspot.com/

 

 

post #19 of 50
You would never sell it as $50/serving, it would be something like $5/serving for the cake plus $15/hour for detail work.
post #20 of 50
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Originally Posted by Jess155 View Post

That minimum probably buys you more than just a 9 inch cake.  Unless it is an incredibly detailed masterpiece.  And gold.  Either way, he does have that pesky tv show and the whole name brand thing.  So, yes, he probably charges more than us who are not on tv.  I was referring to the fact that although the people that watch those shows don't have any idea how much they cost, they could probably never imagine a $50 per serving price tag. 

Agree and Agree. 

post #21 of 50
Thread Starter 
Jess: The client WAS wanting a scale replica, of which I tracked down blueprints in order to do so and she DID provide me with pictures. I don't think $1500 is an unfair price at all. I planned on 50 hours of work, not to mention clearing my schedule for that week and the week prior, purchasing building materials for the frame and building it . Plus I would have to deliver it ~80 miles. When did I ever say anything about a 9" round anyway?

The botton line is: I CAN'T make a 30 serving cake for under $100 whether there's a plane on it or not. I'll definitely be finding out the client's budget in the future before wasting my time. She said that her sister-in-law's (whom the cake was to be for) husband had some big money contacts and they would be using me in the future after seeing this cake so I just assumed she would put her money where her mouth is. Guess not!

BlakesCakes: I used Mike McCarey's car DVD on a Studebaker cake and, yes, he is very smart and talented.
post #22 of 50

I don't see any mention of minimum order on your FB page...might want to indicate that somewhere since you seem to do most of your business there? Just a thought. I definitely have my minimum front and center on my page and website. Helps to weed out the requests that won't pan out.

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post #23 of 50
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When did I ever say anything about a 9" round anyway?
 

You didn't.  You mentioned it was for 30 people.  It doesn't really matter what shape it is.  I didn't think for 30 people it sounded like a major project involving blueprints, frame, and building materials.  Sounds like a gumpaste plane on a small cake.  That's why I balked at the $1500 price tag, as did the client.  I didn't know about the delivery, which could add a significant charge.  And I didn't say you should make it for under $100.  Neither did the client.  Her price range was $100-150 I believe.  I'm just saying that there are a lot more ways to make this way more affordable and way easier for you.  Then you won't have to clear your schedule for 2 weeks. 

I homeschool because I've seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.

 

http://whynotethiopia2.blogspot.com/

 

 

I homeschool because I've seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.

 

http://whynotethiopia2.blogspot.com/

 

 

post #24 of 50
Three years age for my 50th birthday my husband and my daughters surprised me with a cake from Duff. It was $1,000 for a small sheet cake and delivery was $500. My daughter drove to Baltimore to pick the cake up.
post #25 of 50
Thread Starter 
Sure, there are ways to make it easier on myself but simple is not at all what she attempted to order. What she wanted was a replica. My thinking is this: if she expected to get a scale replica for under $150 then she'll more than likely be disappointed in a $150 cake.
post #26 of 50
Thread Starter 
Also, I'm in no way comparing my work to Duff's. I'm sure he would charge ten times that amount for a cake like that, not to mention, it would be much more awesome. All I'm
saying is that if I'm going to spend that much time, I need to be compensated for it. I'm done stressing and working for free.
post #27 of 50
I think 1500 is fair, many bakers charge minimum of 1000-1500. Get a good list of questions together for people wanting cakes. Like an employment application.!! Hehe and most importantly find out their budget first! There are many people charging 10-30$ per slice of 4" highx1" thick, 3" deep sometimes 2" deep
post #28 of 50
Also check out cake boss software to help you just costs
post #29 of 50

For the amount of work and detail you were going to put into this cake, $1500 is reasonable, at least to fellow bakers on this forum.  However, that is a shocking price to the general public.  Unfortunately, most people don't understand what goes into a cake.

post #30 of 50
Yep and that's why they have betty Crocker !!😃
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