Hi All!! So here is my dilemma. I have been making cakes for about a year, and mainly work with fondant. I have had a consistent problem with bubbles appearing even after I have used a pin to squeeze the air out. Its very frustrating to work on these huge cakes only to see the begin to melt sometimes. ( I usually blame it on the Texas heat, but i'm in San Diego this time and can't use that excuse) I know not to store fondant in the fridge, but someone at my local cake shop told me I was getting this problem because I put my fondant covered cakes back in the fridge, and that once they're covered I should just leave them out. The only problem I see with that is what if the filling is perishable? I am currently working on a 5 tier wedding cake that will alternate chocolate mousse filling and Strawberry filling, both of which should go in the fridge, especially if the wedding is Sunday and I plan to complete the cake Saturday. I don't think those fillings will keep for 24 hours without refrigeration, or will they?? 
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Fondant Covered Cake in Fridge?? Confused! Help!
post #2 of 11
10/18/12 at 10:16am
No. If your fillings are perishable they should not stay at room temperature first for at least 24 hours with you and possibly another 4-6 hours at the venue. A bubbled-out fondant cake beats a microbiological cesspool anytime.
Fondant cakes can be stored in the fridge. You just have to deal with the initial condensation. That has been discussed extensively on this site.
I've found that blow out are more related to trapped air pockets in the cake than how it is stored. As (cool) air comes to room temp, it expands. If it is trapped in your layers, it seeks a path of least resistance to exit.
Blowouts aka cake farts have also be extensively discussed on this site. Many recommendations focus on technique during the filling and crumbcoating process.
If CC's search engine fails, use google making sure to add 'cake central' to your search criteria.
Good luck.
Fondant cakes can be stored in the fridge. You just have to deal with the initial condensation. That has been discussed extensively on this site.
I've found that blow out are more related to trapped air pockets in the cake than how it is stored. As (cool) air comes to room temp, it expands. If it is trapped in your layers, it seeks a path of least resistance to exit.
Blowouts aka cake farts have also be extensively discussed on this site. Many recommendations focus on technique during the filling and crumbcoating process.
If CC's search engine fails, use google making sure to add 'cake central' to your search criteria.
Good luck.
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10/18/12 at 10:18am
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I always refrigerate my cakes at every stage of decorating. I split fill and crumb coat my cakes, stick them in the fridge overnight to settle. That is THE MOST important part - let them settle!!! take them out, frost with buttercream and smooth, put back into the fridge for several hours. Roll out my fondant, get the cake out, cover it with fondant, smooth and trim the fondant and stick it back into the fridge. They stay in the fridge til I deliver them or about 2 hours before they are served. There is a little condensation with the fondant straight out of the fridge - don't touch it. It will dry out soon and will be fine. I refrigerate every cake, always, from beginning to end. My fondant is smooth, is not rippled, does not melt.. . .I used homemade MMF, Satin Ice and FondX. One of my recent ones:
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/2417071/red-and-black-ribbons
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/2417071/red-and-black-ribbons
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This is the most informative thread I've read on the subject:
http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-723775.html
Also, in one of the craftsy classes, Colette Peters says it's not true that you can't refrigerate a cake that's been covered in fondant. She wasn't talking about blowouts though, or bulges, just generally.
http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-723775.html
Also, in one of the craftsy classes, Colette Peters says it's not true that you can't refrigerate a cake that's been covered in fondant. She wasn't talking about blowouts though, or bulges, just generally.
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10/18/12 at 12:42pm
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I always refrigerate my cakes at every stage of decorating. I split fill and crumb coat my cakes, stick them in the fridge overnight to settle. That is THE MOST important part - let them settle!!! take them out, frost with buttercream and smooth, put back into the fridge for several hours. Roll out my fondant, get the cake out, cover it with fondant, smooth and trim the fondant and stick it back into the fridge. They stay in the fridge til I deliver them or about 2 hours before they are served. There is a little condensation with the fondant straight out of the fridge - don't touch it. It will dry out soon and will be fine. I refrigerate every cake, always, from beginning to end. My fondant is smooth, is not rippled, does not melt.. . .I used homemade MMF Satin Ice and FondX. One of my recent ones:
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/2417071/red-and-black-ribbons
I always refrigerate my cakes at every stage of decorating. I split fill and crumb coat my cakes, stick them in the fridge overnight to settle. That is THE MOST important part - let them settle!!! take them out, frost with buttercream and smooth, put back into the fridge for several hours. Roll out my fondant, get the cake out, cover it with fondant, smooth and trim the fondant and stick it back into the fridge. They stay in the fridge til I deliver them or about 2 hours before they are served. There is a little condensation with the fondant straight out of the fridge - don't touch it. It will dry out soon and will be fine. I refrigerate every cake, always, from beginning to end. My fondant is smooth, is not rippled, does not melt.. . .I used homemade MMF Satin Ice and FondX. One of my recent ones:
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/2417071/red-and-black-ribbons
I AGREE COMPLETELY
post #7 of 11
10/19/12 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by Dani1081
I always refrigerate my cakes at every stage of decorating. I split fill and crumb coat my cakes, stick them in the fridge overnight to settle. That is THE MOST important part - let them settle!!! take them out, frost with buttercream and smooth, put back into the fridge for several hours. Roll out my fondant, get the cake out, cover it with fondant, smooth and trim the fondant and stick it back into the fridge. They stay in the fridge til I deliver them or about 2 hours before they are served. There is a little condensation with the fondant straight out of the fridge - don't touch it. It will dry out soon and will be fine. I refrigerate every cake, always, from beginning to end. My fondant is smooth, is not rippled, does not melt.. . .I used homemade MMF, and FondX. One of my recent ones:
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/2417071/red-and-black-ribbons
I always refrigerate my cakes at every stage of decorating. I split fill and crumb coat my cakes, stick them in the fridge overnight to settle. That is THE MOST important part - let them settle!!! take them out, frost with buttercream and smooth, put back into the fridge for several hours. Roll out my fondant, get the cake out, cover it with fondant, smooth and trim the fondant and stick it back into the fridge. They stay in the fridge til I deliver them or about 2 hours before they are served. There is a little condensation with the fondant straight out of the fridge - don't touch it. It will dry out soon and will be fine. I refrigerate every cake, always, from beginning to end. My fondant is smooth, is not rippled, does not melt.. . .I used homemade MMF, and FondX. One of my recent ones:
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/2417071/red-and-black-ribbons
I too agree whole heartedly with this... HOWEVER!!! BIG HOWEVER!!! You MUST have the right fondant! Satin Ice and homemade MMF are perfectly fine in the fridge in my experience... but put Wilton fondant in the fridge and you will have a HUGE mess on your hands! Wilton Fondant dries out HORRIBLY and cracks... not only will your fondant look like crap, but if your fondant was providing ANY sort of support, (like with a pillow cake) your cake will split! Just don't do it... If you're not into making your own, I know for a fact Satin Ice is available at Sur La Table for about $11.95 for a 2 lb tub (and can be found MUCH cheaper online if you're willing to buy in bulk) and it says right on the tub that it can be refrigerated! and it CAN, beautifully... It stays moist and tasty, and has a wonderful texture even after DAYS in the fridge. SOOoooooo worth the extra investment... I usually make my own fondant, but find that if I am making a cake with a deep color like red, hot pink, or black, the MMF doesn't really hold up to the amount of color needed, and the Satin Ice is the way to go! I haven't tried FondX, but have heard good things as well. One more tip for keeping fondant cakes int the fridge... I put water in my Misto, and give the buttercreamed cake a VERY light spritz before covering with fondant. Since the frosting is hard when it comes out of the fridge, and doesn't really get a chance to soften up before I cover it. The spritz gives the fondant a little moisture to help it adhere to the cake, and you won't get those bubbles in the spots that the fondant didn't stick!
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Omg! Thank y'all for the info! This is exactly what I needed! I am baking right now and will make sure to fill and crumb coat them today, let them settle overnight and cover them with fondant tomorrow. And up until this point I have been using Wilton fondant, but no more! I have been converted! I've already bought some Satin Ice to use for the rose petals and will get some more to cover the cakes! Does anyone know if using the candy lacquer on isomalt diamonds is totally essential or can I get away with just a good coating of cooking spray?
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10/19/12 at 2:18pm
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Omg! Thank y'all for the info! This is exactly what I needed! I am baking right now and will make sure to fill and crumb coat them today, let them settle overnight and cover them with fondant tomorrow. And up until this point I have been using Wilton fondant, but no more! I have been converted! I've already bought some to use for the rose petals and will get some more to cover the cakes! Does anyone know if using the candy lacquer on diamonds is totally essential or can I get away with just a good coating of cooking spray?
Omg! Thank y'all for the info! This is exactly what I needed! I am baking right now and will make sure to fill and crumb coat them today, let them settle overnight and cover them with fondant tomorrow. And up until this point I have been using Wilton fondant, but no more! I have been converted! I've already bought some to use for the rose petals and will get some more to cover the cakes! Does anyone know if using the candy lacquer on diamonds is totally essential or can I get away with just a good coating of cooking spray?
In my experience, i have never used candy lacquer, but i could see it helping a lot! I usually use vegetable oil... Again, my misto comes in handy for that. I would be cautious of the cooking spray if i were going to go that route... Only because it has propellants and that might cloud them up, but i've never tried it, so for all i know, it might work fine
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10/19/12 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by CakesbyMAE
Omg! Thank y'all for the info! This is exactly what I needed! I am baking right now and will make sure to fill and crumb coat them today, let them settle overnight and cover them with fondant tomorrow. And up until this point I have been using Wilton fondant, but no more! I have been converted! I've already bought some to use for the rose petals and will get some more to cover the cakes! Does anyone know if using the candy lacquer on diamonds is totally essential or can I get away with just a good coating of cooking spray?
Omg! Thank y'all for the info! This is exactly what I needed! I am baking right now and will make sure to fill and crumb coat them today, let them settle overnight and cover them with fondant tomorrow. And up until this point I have been using Wilton fondant, but no more! I have been converted! I've already bought some to use for the rose petals and will get some more to cover the cakes! Does anyone know if using the candy lacquer on diamonds is totally essential or can I get away with just a good coating of cooking spray?
In my experience, i have never used candy lacquer, but i could see it helping a lot! I usually use vegetable oil... Again, my misto comes in handy for that. I would be cautious of the cooking spray if i were going to go that route... Only because it has propellants and that might cloud them up, but i've never tried it, so for all i know, it might work fine
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