Bring back the 'Puppies and Rainbows' - Page 4

[My friend's daughter recently committed suicide. She was being bullied at school. She posted a video on You Tube, a cry for help I suppose, which made it worse. Some of the comments she received were horrible. Two weeks later she committed suicide. Our local schools are now trying to deal with this issue[/quote]


Sorry - I messed that quoting bit up.......but I was trying to get part of a reply to post.


Danielle - this just made me feel so sad, sad for your daughter, sad for the school and more than anything sad for the mother and family of this child. I could not imagine the pain of losing a child, I know it happens, but being a mother myself I think this is our worst fear in life.

I agree with some parts of what pumpkin tart has to say, especially the part about if you have a bad experience with some people you tend to hold what they say as negative. I will be the first to say 'guilty as charged'. I think reading back over my posts on this thread I may have over-acted 'a bit' where Jason is concerned, but we are so different we just 'clash'. I admit I am way too sarcastic at times, but if I did not think Jason could take it, I would not do it. He gives as good as he gets. And while I admit to being openly sarcastic, he does exactly the same in many of his 'helpful' replies, he just hides it better. The person still knows they are being attacked.

Someone on here has a tag on the bottom of their signature something about 'everything you say to someone effects them'. Sorry I can't remember who it is or what it says again but it is something along those lines. Think this sums it up personally.

I am such a beginner in all things to do with cake, if I could nope to be even a fraction of what some of the talented people are on here I would be a very happy little camper indeed . In saying that, I have improved heaps and has my knowledge the more I have to do with it. So now I probably would not come on and ask a question that is seen to be a silly question to ask. If I had come on here a year ago, I would probably have fallen into the category of 'people asking silly questions'. What seems silly to an experienced person, is not as silly or 'plain to see' to the beginner.

I don't think being anonymous has anything to do with it, we are all just as important as the next person, nobody should be made to feel like they are 'not worth it'.

I'm not sure why you are insulted...I certainly don't consider being called sensitive to be an insult. One thing this thread has made clear is that some people are uncomfortable with perceived negative emotions in others' posts, and some people either don't see the negativity or don't care about it.

Another point is that some people (newbies and non-newbies) are afraid to post due to the aforementioned perceived negativity. A separate forum that is actively moderated and held to a higher standard of civility would provide a safe place for these people to ask questions without fear.

Newbies would be free to ask questions anywhere, but if they can't handle an environment that's (for lack of a better phrase) less than 100% polite then they would do best to stick to the newbie forum (or the "Puppies and Rainbows" forum if you'd prefer). IMO this solution is more realistic than the entire CC community committing to be more polite.

Perhaps I should clarify my suggestion. I'm not suggesting segregating newbies from the rest of the CC population, I used that description because that's how I've seen this type of sub-forum labeled on other sites. The point of the sub-forum would be to more strictly enforce a higher standard of civility for people who feel more comfortable in that kind of environment, whether they are newbies or not.

So if I'm an expert in business and have a newbie question about cake decorating, I would post in the main Cake Decorating forum because it won't bother me if someone makes a sarcastic or rude comment. If that did bother me, I would post in the Puppies & Rainbows forum instead.



I doubt you will be happy with the results if moderators start editing anyone's posts that do not meet an arbitrary and subjective level of politeness. Actually enforcing the existing rules of the forum to remove personal attacks in a timely manner would be a step in the right direction though.



I'm curious, how would you have phrased it? I was trying to explain who would use the new sub-forum in my suggestion, and that was what I came up with...if people are OK with reading or even skipping over the occasional negative comment they would use the existing forums, but if they don't want to risk seeing those negative comments at all they would use the proactively moderated sub-forum.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being sensitive, and I'm still surprised you feel insulted by this. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on what's rude and what's not, but if you tend to err on the side of inferring rudeness, don't expect the rest of the world to be extra careful with their words to avoid upsetting you.

Ahhh... arguing with Jason... an exercise in futility. *runs out of thread*

Arguing with Jason becomes tedious for some people because Jason always replies with a calm, collected, factual answer, which some people cannot argue with. So they stop, signing off with "oh I cant argue anymore, its too tedious".

Lol! Jason, I dont know why you're being so attacked, your posts have always been chock-full of decent advice when I've read them.

But I guess, the statement truly fits here.

Offence is never given, only taken.

PS: Danielle_loves_cake, you say you've been on here for years, but your reg date is Oct 11, 2012?

Jason is an example of someone who can seemingly read a thread and not imagine ten tons of emotion into it. Maybe it's the Y chromosome, take the info and move along. It's something that a lot of people on here could benefit from. I've seen threads where someone asked a question, someone else answered with a simple yes or no, and because the answer wasn't what th OP was looking for the person responding was called a bully, mean, dream crusher, whatever. It gets tedious for people who are trying to be helpful but don't give the answers that someone is looking to get.

This kind of let's all hold hands thread gets started occasionally, and it's pretty obvious that it's usually intended to scold one particular person, which is pretty ironic.

What she said.

If you are looking for puppies and rainbows in a cake forum, check out Wilton.com. Just looked around a bit over there and everyone is sweet as pie to everyone else. I'm not sure if anyone is getting useful responses that would help grow their businesses or improve their skills in any way, but they are all really nice to each other.

If folks want to surround themselves with yes-men and yea-sayers there is always the possibility to start their own message boards and only allow rainbows, unicorns, good fairies, and Care Bears to become members. Then they can moderate (censor) to their hearts' content! Everyone can sit in a circle, hold hands and sing Kumbayah