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post #1 of 24
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Ok heres my problem i own the wilton petal pan set ( they are on page 160 of this years wilton book) ive owened them for years and have only used them twice reason being when i go to frost the cakes they end up looking horrible instead of petals they look like a very bad job on a round cake both times ive done them the cakes were free anyways i just used them two weeks ago for my sister in laws baby shower cake it looked terrible but i didnt have the time to do another cake now my problem i have a lady who heard through my neighbor that i do
wonderful cakes and she told her of the petal cake i made the lady called me begging me to do a 3 tier petal cake and 30 cupcakes for her daughters 16th birthday party im starting to freak out the cake is due next week and i called the lady back and asked if she wanted any different shape and she said oh please i want the petal cake the things that ive tried to make it look more like a petal cake are slow down frosting it as i go around it use thinner frosting frosting it and using a viva towel to try and get the shape and none of those seem to work it seems like there is just to much frosting on the cake but when i go around to take the frosting off some it tears the cake or just takes off the frosting from the outter parts of the petal and where it goes in to form the petal has alot of extra frosting there hope this makes since and sure hope someone can help PLEASE thanks

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wonderful cakes and she had mentioned that i was doing a petal cake icon_cry.gif
post #2 of 24
Those pans have *always* been a problem to ice and the smaller the size the harder to get them to look good.
You could try giving the cake a nice crumb coat and covering w/a somewhat thinnly rolled fondant covering.

BTW: your post is *VERY!* hard to read as you use no periods or anything icon_sad.gif It's just one LONG sentence in small print.
post #3 of 24
Since you don't have a lot of time to practice icing it in buttercream, I would go the fondant route. Not that it's exactly easy to cover in fondant, but it should give you a smoother look than trying to ice such an odd shape in bc.
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post #4 of 24
Sharon zambito has a great DVD that cover this type of cake. I think the name is Flawless Fondant
post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 
The lady that wants the cake hates fondant and wants it in buttercream. I didnt know that these pans were hard to work with i thought it was just me. Now i dont know what to do. The lady is all excited about a petal 3 tier cake icon_cry.gif
post #6 of 24
Kazita i will send you a picture that maybe help you with that, I just have to find the book where i saw that technique on buttercream
post #7 of 24
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Oh any pictures or videos on how to do this petal cake would be so greatly appreciated icon_biggrin.gif
post #8 of 24
kazita,
I had a similar problem with a cactus shape cake I made. I found the buttercream needed to be a bit firmer than usual. I then washed my hands thoroughly, dipped them in warm water and formed it like you might with clay. You can see the cake in my photos. I hope this helps!
Good luck!

Susan
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Ok so im excited and stressed about the cake now. I figure theres no way im gonna be able to sleep without trying to do at least on layer of this darn cake again so i now am cooking a cake , yes i know its late at night and i have to let the cake cool ill put it in the freezer while i make the fosting and like i said i have to try yet again to see if i can get it right. I also am a member of my cake school and sent them a email and the had a few suggestions so with the suggestions here and the ones from them im gonna try a trial run. Wish me luck and ill let you all know how it turns out good or bad icon_rolleyes.gif
post #10 of 24
The Wilton pans don't have very defined petals. You have to really work at it to get the shape. It's either Fat Daddio's or Magic Line, but one has a much more defined petal pan.
post #11 of 24
The way that works best for me when using the Wilton petal pans is to use a fairly large star tip and pipe the icing on the sides that way. Smooth and remove doing a nice crisp crumb coat. Let is crust (or refrigerate for a bit) and then smooth on the additional icing. Doing that enables me to see exactly where the indents are for each petal. My daughter gave me a headache when she decided she wanted the petal shape for her wedding cake and she also wanted it all in buttercream. It took a bit of time to get the icing really smooth and the petal shape defined but it can be done.

Just as an idea, why don't you make a small cake out of the smallest petal pan and practice with that until you master it. HTH

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post #12 of 24
If the problem is that the cake pan isn't well defined, can you trim it a little to fix that?

Also- remember you don't have to actually bake a cake to practice. Make your icing and slather it right on the pan. This way you can scrape and redo all you like.
post #13 of 24
Hmm, I just had a thought. What if you used rolled buttercream? I've never tried it but it sounds like it has the texture of fondant but is really buttercream.
post #14 of 24
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Rolled buttercream is that with a spong roller? Ive seen it done on a video on my cake school. Well the meduim cake is crumb coating and in the frig, toomorrow i will try again and see if i can get it. Another thing that is bothering me is i am probably losing money on making this cake, its a cousin of my neighbors and my neighbor told her that i have to die for cakes and that my buttercream is out of this world , if course than they told me that they had very little money to spend on the cake and cupcakes to boot and delivery that 30 miles away




























































and i have a big truck that sucks gas like crazy . So i am probably actually losing money on the deal icon_surprised.gificon_cry.gif
post #15 of 24
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Sorry for the last post beind messed up, im on my nook and sometimes it skips around and wont let me fix it. I swear if this cake doesnt turn out than shes getting a round cake. Thanks for all the input and im still open to more ideas if anyone can find a video of someone doing this cake in butter cream that would be great icon_lol.gif


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