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post #1 of 26
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I am indecisive between doing what I love which is baking and decorating cakes and my financial future. I know baking is my passion because when events come up I'm ready to make something or always bring something into work, and people who know me can see the desire in my eyes yet there is alot more I need to learn. I for one am a big believer in doing what you love. My degree right now is Marketing because I want to own my own bakery some day and feel it is better to know the business side. I am considering taking up nursing because it is a field that will always be in demand and the pay is good yet I know it is hard work. I am a caring person and all for helping people but nursing isn't my passion like baking is. My thing is what if baking doesn't take off well right away, should I go for a degree in nursing and make it my backup plan? Mind you I still will complete my marketing degree. But then I wonder if I get into the medical field, will I have time to bake and progress my skills. Advice appreciated.
post #2 of 26
Somewhat off topic, I know, and probably not a lot of help to you, but....
When my grandfather was young, he wanted nothing more to be than a cowboy. His father advised him; yes, that would be a good choice but.... "get your education first". He went into law and became a prominent judge in Southern Utah. He was an authority on Western history and I treasure some of his volumes of literature today. This is a story I grew up hearing from my father. Take what you want from it. I really can't advise.

Jan
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If you have knowledge, let others light their candles on it.

Never fear shadows. They simply mean there's a light shining somewhere nearby.
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post #3 of 26
If money is your primary concern I would go for nursing and save money until you have enough to start a baking business debt-free.

You don't need a undergrad marketing degree to start a business, in fact you would probably be better served with a more broad-based education on all the topics relevant to entrepreneurship (marketing, operations, finance, accounting, economics, etc.).
post #4 of 26
If you love your job, you never have to work a day in your life because it's always fun. Follow your passion.

If you can work in a bakery and get some experience, including how the business side works, you'll have a better chance of success owning your own shop. If it doesn't work out, you can give some thought at that point about what you might want to do. With a marketing degree, you'll already have something to fall back on.
post #5 of 26
I'm an ICU nurse. Got off a 15 hour shift today (usually 12 hour shift but this pt was crashing), 4 of those hours were spent brushing up on procedures, and guidelines for what we were expecting from the OR. 7 of those 15 hours were spent not just on my feet but constantly moving physically, and mentally. 7 STRAIGHT hours. Running across units grabbing bags of blood that were literally getting poured into the patient. Titrating drips and trying to keep up with what vasopressor does what, and which one might be counteracting which based on what the monitors were screaming. Numbers flying across the room, it was almost dizzying. I can't go into more details but let it suffice to say that when I finally remembered that I wanted to pee, it had been a couple of hours. Constant, constant, intense mental and physical work; someones-life-is-on-the-line, and I-forgot-I have-a-bladder, where all that matters in the world is that one person, who can't do a thing to help the situation except just stay alive so that in the end, all the aches I feel now after the shift are worth it. The funny thing is, I thought to myself today, this man, when he finally comes out of it will never ever know how much of ourselves the 7-man team poured into him during the shift.

When I finally got a chance to grab a cookie and some juice at the end of the shift, I was literally shaking, my blood glucose must have been in the toilet.

Nursing is a great profession, but it is also very draining, thankless work. Do not go into it unless you mean it. Don't.
post #6 of 26
i know it may seem silly to say the obvious...but a lot of folks out there who have just started baking always think that doing something they "love" and then starting it as a business is still going to be something they LOVE. it doesn't quite work that way...your something you love becomes "work" and there's a lot more to it than just baking and decorating the cakes.

I have seen many people on this site, including myself, who have taken this passion of decorating cakes into a business...and eventually we get burnt out. I think that happens with any profession really. But, my point is, you have to have something to fall back on. A Marketing degree is going to help you in multiple aspects of the career industry other than just a business...and actually marketing is a very small aspect of business. so, if you are really wanting the bakery one day, go for the Business Degree because it's going to teach you accounting, marketing, entrepreneurship, PR, and management. That degree has so much more to it than those focused degrees. and I can say that from experience because I have a Communication BA, but I wish I had done so much more.
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post #7 of 26
One of the best things you can do for yourself, whether you become a baker or nurse, is to take a BOOKKEEPING course. Bookkeeping and accounting are not the same thing. You can always hire an accountant, but bookkeeping is something you'd better be able to tackle on your own. Of course, it helps if you know enough to keep an eye on your accountant, too.

It's quite possible to be satisfied (if not actually happy) doing something other than baking. icon_surprised.gif If you are in a position to make the choice, good for you. A lot of us weren't for years. There's a lot to be said for financial security. On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for being happy in your work. And if you can do both - - heaven!

I've found that whenever I have an important decision to make, if there's any doubt whatsoever - - wait. Don't jump one way or the other. Most of the time the answer will present itself.

Good Luck!
post #8 of 26
If you are happy with your marketing degree, then go into banking.

Nursing and bakery ownership require a LOT of technical knowledge that begins to be acquired in high school. Having a marketing degree makes no contribution whatsoever to those technical skills.

Being a nurse requires all the skills that it takes to save a life when you have been deprived of sleep for many weeks straight. Becoming a nurse to make $$$ is the ABSOLUTE WORST REASON TO DO SO.

Making a profit with a bakery requires knowing your baking procedures so perfectly that you keep your waste down. It means that you can hire and motivate staff who care enough to help you make a profit. It means that you can satisfy your customers so well that they spread the word about your excellent cakes. It means that you have real artistic ability to translate ideas into images.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by step0nmi

i know it may seem silly to say the obvious...but a lot of folks out there who have just started baking always think that doing something they "love" and then starting it as a business is still going to be something they LOVE. it doesn't quite work that way...your something you love becomes "work" and there's a lot more to it than just baking and decorating the cakes.

I have seen many people on this site, including myself, who have taken this passion of decorating cakes into a business...and eventually we get burnt out. I think that happens with any profession really. But, my point is, you have to have something to fall back on. A Marketing degree is going to help you in multiple aspects of the career industry other than just a business...and actually marketing is a very small aspect of business. so, if you are really wanting the bakery one day, go for the Business Degree because it's going to teach you accounting, marketing, entrepreneurship, PR, and management. That degree has so much more to it than those focused degrees. and I can say that from experience because I have a Communication BA, but I wish I had done so much more.



I actually did read an article about passion vs hobby. I have always been creative since I was little and I love creating nothing out of something hence why I love baking. I do agree that I should do business admin because I looked into it and it does give you aspect of everything to do with business. Thanks for your expertise.
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by vgcea

I'm an ICU nurse. Got off a 15 hour shift today (usually 12 hour shift but this pt was crashing), 4 of those hours were spent brushing up on procedures, and guidelines for what we were expecting from the OR. 7 of those 15 hours were spent not just on my feet but constantly moving physically, and mentally. 7 STRAIGHT hours. Running across units grabbing bags of blood that were literally getting poured into the patient. Titrating drips and trying to keep up with what vasopressor does what, and which one might be counteracting which based on what the monitors were screaming. Numbers flying across the room, it was almost dizzying. I can't go into more details but let it suffice to say that when I finally remembered that I wanted to pee, it had been a couple of hours. Constant, constant, intense mental and physical work; someones-life-is-on-the-line, and I-forgot-I have-a-bladder, where all that matters in the world is that one person, who can't do a thing to help the situation except just stay alive so that in the end, all the aches I feel now after the shift are worth it. The funny thing is, I thought to myself today, this man, when he finally comes out of it will never ever know how much of ourselves the 7-man team poured into him during the shift.

When I finally got a chance to grab a cookie and some juice at the end of the shift, I was literally shaking, my blood glucose must have been in the toilet.

Nursing is a great profession, but it is also very draining, thankless work. Do not go into it unless you mean it. Don't.



It is great to hear from a nurse's perspective. All I hear is it a rewarding job which I get but I feel like mmm I don't think you're telling me everything there is. I remember overhearing a nurse's conversation saying if she had it to do again she would have done EMT and tells people to go into a field their passionate about. I know all about working in a thankless job field but it doesn't compare to nursing.
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by BakingIrene

If you are happy with your marketing degree, then go into banking.

Nursing and bakery ownership require a LOT of technical knowledge that begins to be acquired in high school. Having a marketing degree makes no contribution whatsoever to those technical skills.

Being a nurse requires all the skills that it takes to save a life when you have been deprived of sleep for many weeks straight. Becoming a nurse to make $$$ is the ABSOLUTE WORST REASON TO DO SO.

Making a profit with a bakery requires knowing your baking procedures so perfectly that you keep your waste down. It means that you can hire and motivate staff who care enough to help you make a profit. It means that you can satisfy your customers so well that they spread the word about your excellent cakes. It means that you have real artistic ability to translate ideas into images.



I have been to culinary school so I do know the technical skills as far as being precise in measurements and not wasting food. My career field is all about customer service so I have gained knowledge in that area.
post #12 of 26
There are several different types of jobs in the nursing field, some of which are more demanding and time consuming than running your own bakery, and some of which are less.

Have you decided which type of nursing job you are looking for?
post #13 of 26
I don't know anything about your life, so it's hard to comment. I don't know if you have a family, children, other means of support etc.

One thing I do know is that your profession (whether you love it or not) is a PART of your life.
Make sure you protect your ability to have a financial quality of life that affords you things like a standard of living, medical insurance and a pension.

I have many friends that do "home baking" for a living. They are passionate and driven. They are making $ to have a decent standard of life. BUT they must rely on other family members for medical coverage, and they are pension blind. Don't fall into that place.

You may love baking as a hobby and hate it as a business. The joy of creating is not the same as having to create.

I don't say any of this to convince you to have another career besides baking. I say it because I believe you have to consider your entire life, and the security of your future.
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by Lynne3

Make sure you protect your ability to have a financial quality of life that affords you things like a standard of living, medical insurance and a pension.

I have many friends that do "home baking" for a living. They are passionate and driven. They are making $ to have a decent standard of life. BUT they must rely on other family members for medical coverage, and they are pension blind. Don't fall into that place.


That's definitely an important point...hopefully medical coverage will be less of an issue in the near future since the new healthcare law is working to help decouple medical coverage from employment. It is also much easier these days to create a tax-advantaged self-directed pension (a Roth IRA for example) assuming you have the discipline to save.
post #15 of 26
As someone whose frail mom is coming home today from a hospital stay....please do NOT become a nurse because you say it's a job and always in demand.

Nursing has to be a passion. The best nurses are passionate and caring, and aren't there for the money.
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