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post #16 of 33
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Here is the sticky for the SPS system. It answers all questions about the system.

http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-603925.html

IMO it is worth the small increase in cost to have the piece of mind that your cake won't fall and it won't be crooked. I took my tiers in cake boxes and assembled on-site. It was so easy that I feel badly thinking about the stress my past self went thru delivering cakes.
post #17 of 33
I recently had a 6 tier cake (14", double barrel 12, 10, 8, 6) which was stacked and decorated prior to delivery (picture is in my gallery). I use wood base with metal flange which sits down inside the foam core which is cut to allow for the flange, a screw in female piece of pvc and a pvc pipe that ran up through the cake. I used dowels in each layer and it traveled beautifully; however, it was very heavy and took two men to move it. I do it on every tiered cake and it has never failed. I have looked at SPS system and keep thinking im missing something...but if it ain't broke... lol
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post #18 of 33
.........Yuch to any musty wood in a cake, regardless of who made it or sanitized it or bathed in Unicorn tears first........
.........The bottom three tiers of a 5 tier cake REQUIRE hard dowels not straws..........

I agree with the statement of the musty wood taste!! That's why I switched to plastic drink straws for some 90% of my cakes.
As I mentioned in another thread......one can always slip a wood dowel into a drink straw for both safty and extra strength.
post #19 of 33
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This is such a late response, but I wanted to say THANK YOU to everyone that responded. HUGS! I never received any notifications and I forgot about my question. The bride wants a 3 tier offset square wedding cake instead of 5 tiers. Her wedding is 30 days away. I'm eager and nervous at the same time. It's going to be 14, 10, 6" squares all 4" tall. Wish me luck.
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post #20 of 33
I have to add that venues hate center dowels. Unless they're removed after the cake is delivered it makes the cakes difficult to manage when they're being cut. I hear this from a lot of different venue managers, they hate it when people deliver a cake with a center doewl and leave it in. I just assemble on site for anything over three tiers, it makes the disassembling process a lot easier.

If I tried to add anything extra to the cost of a cake to cover the cost of a support system I'd lose business to the plethora of undercutters that live in my area, so I stick with wooden dowels and don't worry about it. If I drop them on the floor I lick them clean before inserting them into the cake icon_wink.gif
post #21 of 33
Ummm, the bottom three tiers do NOT require dowels, sorry. I haven't used a dowel in years. I can do a 7 tier cake with bubble straws. Pffffffffft on dowels. But I'm very very comfy with them and know what I'm doing.
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post #22 of 33
And L-O-L at "Buddy does (anything)"
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post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by tokazodo View Post

I just remembered why I quit coming to this website.

I sanitize the dowels before I use them.
I wonder where Buddy Valastro gets he's wooden dowels, pvc pipes, plywood or 2 X 4's. Just sayin'

 



That's funny...I was wondering why no one was stating the obvious...just wash and sanitize the damn thing.  Just like you don't know where those have been, no one really knows how many dowels made for cakes like this were dropped on the floor in the factory also.  DUH!  Keep using your dowels and your intelligence...ignore the ignorant :)

post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by KoryAK View Post

How are you going to hammer a sharpened, saran wrapped dowel through 4 cake boards?


And the other items like pipes can be run through the dish machine and sanitized; not really applicable with exposed wood.


And tokazodo, you stopped coming to the site because people were giving helpful advice in a clear manner to people who might not realize they were doing something incorrectly? By all means, keep doing things your own way - but that doesn't make it sanitary.

When I saran wrap the dowels, I have already cut holes in the boards. I don't hammer them in. You need to make sure your measurements are correct as to where to stick the dowel in so it goes thru the holes.
post #25 of 33
SPS is the way to go. Its easier to use than dowels. The tutorial is at the top of this Forum. Other info in my signature line.
Answers to the most often asked questions re: SPS. SPS instructions are on Page 15 of the Sticky at the top of the Cake Decorating Forum. Supplies can be ordered from Oasis Supply, Global or BakeryCrafts.
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Answers to the most often asked questions re: SPS. SPS instructions are on Page 15 of the Sticky at the top of the Cake Decorating Forum. Supplies can be ordered from Oasis Supply, Global or BakeryCrafts.
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post #26 of 33

Maybe someone should invent/patent a long plastic/pvc dowel with a nice point on it that has grooves on it where it can be shortened as needed. I would buy them. If a person would apply royal icing on the outside of such dowel it would maybe dry and seal cake onto dowel and less chance for cake tearing around dowel. Just thinking out loud,don't really know if this makes sense to anyone.

post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by ttaunt View Post

Maybe someone should invent/patent a long plastic/pvc dowel with a nice point on it that has grooves on it where it can be shortened as needed. I would buy them. If a person would apply royal icing on the outside of such dowel it would maybe dry and seal cake onto dowel and less chance for cake tearing around dowel. Just thinking out loud,don't really know if this makes s!nse to anyone.

Do it! And when you get rich throw a big party with lots of cake!

 

Actually come to think of it Lowes has tomato support spikes just like that. You can cut through them with heavy wire cutters. Not sure what kind of plastic they are though

post #28 of 33

Think i'll try those tomato spike things. Thanks

post #29 of 33

I routinely did 5 and 6, and I believe a few 7 tier cakes.  I'd only trust SPS.

Answers to the most often asked questions re: SPS. SPS instructions are on Page 15 of the Sticky at the top of the Cake Decorating Forum. Supplies can be ordered from Oasis Supply, Global or BakeryCrafts.
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Answers to the most often asked questions re: SPS. SPS instructions are on Page 15 of the Sticky at the top of the Cake Decorating Forum. Supplies can be ordered from Oasis Supply, Global or BakeryCrafts.
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post #30 of 33
I am in Australia and get my dowel from our local hardware store, they have them in 2mitre lengths and different millimetre sizes. I then cut the dowel to length and stretch white or green parafilm ( florist tape) from top to bottom so no dowel is showing making sure each end is covered. If stretched over properly there is no movement of the parafilm when inserting the dowel.
I also use parafilm for wrapping the stems when brides want fresh flowers on the wedding cake.
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