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Wilton Gum-tex same as Tylose powder?

post #1 of 16
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I was wondering if the Wilton's gum-tex that you can get at Walmart is the same thing as Tylose powder??? I have never used either but I have been told that it works good adding a little to fondant to make it stiffer for like bows and what not...

Does anyone have any feedback for me?
post #2 of 16
Wilton Gum-Tex is karaya gum from a tree.

Tylose is a form of carboxymethylcellulose.

They absorb moisture differently and they give a different kid of "stretch" to the paste. They also interact with any gelatin present in fondant in different ways: the properties of different "gummy" ingredients do not simply add up as they are mixed in. The wrong combo of gum and gelatin can actually make the paste very soft.
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by trishalynn0708

I was wondering if the Wilton's gum-tex that you can get at Walmart is the same thing as Tylose powder??? I have never used either but I have been told that it works good adding a little to fondant to make it stiffer for like bows and what not...

Does anyone have any feedback for me?



Not identical, but they will react with fondant in a very similar way. Adding a little to fondant will help it set up faster & harder.

Be careful not to add too much at the start. One recommendation is 1 tsp. to 12 oz. of fondant. That seems about right for Wilton fondant. If you're using another, softer brand, you may need a bit more.

IT WILL NOT WORK WITH DUFF'S OR FONDARIFIC because they're candy melt based and have too much fat to be strongly affected by the gum.

Adding tylose (which is "stronger", so you use less) yields a whiter product. The gum- tex has a slight grey cast to it, but it's not really noticeable.

One trick with it is to deliberately add too much when you want to make something that looks aged--it yields raggedy edges and cracking that works really well for maps.

Rae
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post #4 of 16
Not to steal the thread, but in the instance of making a graduation cap out of fondant, would I get the same affect from gumpaste alone vs. fondant with Tylose? what would be the pros and cons of each? Whenever I used gumpaste, it was for flowers and it seemed really elastic. I am having a hard time finding tylose for the purpose of making the fondant dry harder.
post #5 of 16
Yes you could use gp for the grad hat instead of fondant OR you can add some Wilton's GumTex to the fondant to help it dry/harden faster.
post #6 of 16
gumtex is a joke and the gumpaste always comes out dry and crumbly....and if you buy some of the Wilton ready made gumpaste look at the ingredients there is no GUMTEX at all there is tylose gum trag and gum arabic but no gumtex LOL if they don't use it why should we
post #7 of 16
..........gumtex is a joke and the gumpaste always comes out dry and crumbly.......

then you are adding too much. I have used it often to help fondant dry faster/harder. Yes, it does dry it out some (that is exactly what is suppost to do!) but I have never had it become crumbly.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by kakeladi

..........gumtex is a joke and the gumpaste always comes out dry and crumbly.......

then you are adding too much. I have used it often to help fondant dry faster/harder. Yes, it does dry it out some (that is exactly what is suppost to do!) but I have never had it become crumbly.



Yep, I agree with kakeladi.

Rae
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post #9 of 16
Wilton Gum Tex and Tylose both contain CMC powder or sodium carboxymethyl cellulose.

Wilton Gum-Tex Karaya contains Gum Karaya which is a vegetable gum similar to Gum Tragacanth.
post #10 of 16
I added gum tex to my fondant and it made it soft and crumbly. It was easy to mold but it never got hard. Gum tex and tylose do different things when used with fondant.
post #11 of 16

Is it just the Gum-tex that won't work with fonariffic or tylose too? I need to made my Fondarific firmer. I don't think the gumpaste is working very well.

post #12 of 16

I always use Wilton Gum-tex for bows. I like it much better then tylose powder.  It's the only wilton product I use

post #13 of 16
I am a beginner decorator and I have had no problem getting my fondant hard using the Gum Tex.
post #14 of 16
Is that using Fondarrific brand? This is the one giving me a challenge . No problem with Satin ice , wilton it mmf. Thanks
post #15 of 16

Fondarific is candy melt based, so it has a lot more fat than "regular" fondant.  It acts much more like modeling chocolate than fondant.  It does NOT respond to the addition of tylose/cmc/gum trag/gum-tex much, if at all.  I have found nothing that you can add to Fondarific that will make it firm up the way fondant or gum paste will.

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