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post #16 of 28
5/8/12 at 10:38am
You might ask her if she wants her own business or just a continuation of yours. After all, she got your supplies, knowledge and customers. Encourage her to develop her own signature products and recipes. Doesn't she want to be able to say the business was hers - not just a copycat of yours?
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post #17 of 28
5/8/12 at 4:23pm
This is probably a useless idea this point because she's been so passive aggressive, but perhaps you could meet in the middle?

You could have an IP attorney draft an agreement where if she is going to use your recipes she pays you some kind of residual, like 10 cents for every cupcake and $5 for every cake. Something that would be totally negligible to her customers but could easily add up to several thousand dollars over the year for you without ever having to set foot in the kitchen. I'm a big fan of the idea of getting paid to not work.... icon_wink.gif You could casually remind her that at any time you could just, oh I dont know, get the urge to open a store down the street.
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post #18 of 28
5/8/12 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by Sparklekat6

This is probably a useless idea this point because she's been so passive aggressive, but perhaps you could meet in the middle?

You could have an IP attorney draft an agreement where if she is going to use your recipes she pays you some kind of residual, like 10 cents for every cupcake and $5 for every cake. Something that would be totally negligible to her customers but could easily add up to several thousand dollars over the year for you without ever having to set foot in the kitchen. I'm a big fan of the idea of getting paid to not work.... icon_wink.gif You could casually remind her that at any time you could just, oh I dont know, get the urge to open a store down the street.

How would you know every time she sold a cake or a cupcake...do you really think she would be honest enough to tell you. I say get the money up front for the recipes (a large sum) if you're willing to part with them. But let her know that you still own the rights to them for future use as you see fit.
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post #19 of 28
5/8/12 at 7:26pm
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How would you know every time she sold a cake or a cupcake...do you really think she would be honest enough to tell you.


The legal agreement would require regular disclosure of sales broken out by product to determine how much of a license fee is owed. Failure to disclose could be remedied by a lawsuit and a subpoena for the bakery's sales records.
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post #20 of 28
5/8/12 at 7:35pm
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I say get the money up front for the recipes (a large sum) if you're willing to part with them. But let her know that you still own the rights to them for future use as you see fit.


If the recipes are sold, she does not "still own the rights to them for future use."
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post #21 of 28
5/8/12 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by tiggy2

I say get the money up front for the recipes (a large sum) if you're willing to part with them. But let her know that you still own the rights to them for future use as you see fit.


If the recipes are sold, she does not "still own the rights to them for future use."


She can, assuming she sells a non-exclusive license to the recipes for a one-time fee.

Of course once the other person would have access to the recipes it would be trivial to make slight modifications and claim it as their own product. The only real safe way to do this without losing control of the IP would be to make the cupcakes yourself and sell them wholesale.
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post #22 of 28
5/8/12 at 10:40pm
Never reward bad behavior. I would have nothing further to do with this lady. I too would like to write a cookbook someday and don't share my dessert recipes. You may find that a few years down the line you miss having a bakery and choose to reopen one.
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post #23 of 28
5/9/12 at 12:05am
Ignore her, enjoy finally caking for your loved ones and start working on your cookbook when you are ready. Good luck and best wishes!
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post #24 of 28
5/9/12 at 12:11pm
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Thanks guys! Sorry, didn't mean to post and disappear! Chasing a six year old with Kindergarten end of the year stuff is proving very exhausting!


I have not found fit to respond to her anymore. She can ask and throw hissy fits all she wants but she is not getting them, I more than helped her with the ins and outs of starting up a shop and even referred my old clients to her. She is a fairly talented decorator and her cakes do not taste bad they just aren't the same as mine ( I really think she uses doctored mixes, not saying there is anything wrong, i just prefer scratch my self). So I am done, no more free advice for her, not that I wish her bad but I do not have time to build someone elses business for them.

Thanks for letting me vent guys!
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post #25 of 28
5/9/12 at 12:18pm
Good Girl!
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post #26 of 28
5/9/12 at 2:24pm
GO Louanne GO.... Big pat on the back for you. If you wanted to run a business, you'd still be running your own. Enjoy the break until you decide where to go next. thumbs_up.gif
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post #27 of 28
5/11/12 at 9:12am
Well, let's think about this, I think you SHOULD give her the recipes. Now, if there is a key ingredient missing or say, double the amount of a leavening agent, you can't be held responsible for her crappy product! XD

Seriously though, people like that have NO business going INTO business if they don't know what the heck they're doing and have NOTHING solid to bring to the table. Period.
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post #28 of 28
5/12/12 at 7:37am
Good for you, and good luck with your cookbook! There have been so many stupid little "cake fights" on facebook that I've seen recently... seems like people are just looking to stir up trouble to make their own lives more interesting. Delete and ignore makes it a lot easier.
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