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So just a little aggravated. A little background I owned my own shop for several years, I closed about 8 months ago. I was successful but was just exhausted, I have a 6 year old and was tired of working 6-7 days a week 12 hours a day so my husband and I decided that it was time for a change after 15 years in the cake industry. I now only bake strictly for family or very close friends.

Anyways, about two months after I closed a lady I know opened a small shop, I was happy to answer any questions she had and explained all the licensing process and shared a wealth of information and even gave her my left over boxes boards and other things I would not have use for.

Well she is always asking people what flavors of cupcakes they want and many of them are old customers of mine and are asking for some of the unique flavors I use to make. She calls me the other day asking for my recipe collection, she said she has been trying to replicate my flavors but her customers do not like them they say they are not the same as what they use to buy form my shop.

I told her that I was sorry but I did not give out my recipes, to anyone, period.
I spent years perfecting all my recipes and I do not feel I should just hand them over. She said I was being selfish and should let her have them since I was not in business anymore. She said she works hard to make my former customers happy so I should let her have my recipes so she can do better.

I still told her no, now she is on Facebook posting insinuations, she has not directly named me, but it is very obvious she is talking about me. Posting stuff like I cant believe how selfish someone can be, no reason to not share a simple recipe. General stuff like that.

The fact is while I have no intention of ever having my own shop again, I do have a project in the works for my own cookbook, a large portion of it being committed to my cake and cupcake recipes, not all but many of them.

I never had anything handed to me so I'll be darned if I am just going to hand over recipes that took me years to perfect.

Sorry just needed to vent!
post #2 of 28
Do what is best for you!! Let us know when you write that cookbook icon_lol.gif

Don't let anyone bully you into anything. Good luck thumbs_up.gif
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post #3 of 28
She sounds like a manipulative, selfish witch. I suggest you post on her Facebook page that you're sorry for her misunderstanding about the recipes, that your cookbook is underway, and when it's published you will gift her with a copy.

You do not need to be pinned down on publishing specifics (name of publisher, anticipated publication date, etc,). Everyone knows that these details need to be kept secret.

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post #4 of 28
no way mimi... she got free donated leftover supplies, expert and experienced assistance, and she has no right to ask/demand ANYTHING.

No one is "entitled" to anyone else hard developed/ perfected recipes- ever. You want to give them out- fine. You like to share- fine . Demand? Bully? GET LOST.

My reply/ post? "I spent 20 years, often 6-7 days per week perfecting my recipes. It represents years of research and development, sweat and tears, flour and sugar.... just not something I am willing to give away, or share." Notice, I never included "sorry"... I am not sorry.... it is mine.

If you worked 20 years to buy a Ferrari, would you give it to me? Intellectual property is no different.

Hang tough!
post #5 of 28
This woman apparently has not heard of private property rights. You own your recipes as intellectual property, and what you do with them is none of her business. Next she'll be demanding that you sign over your house to her, calling you "selfish" if you don't. You've been more than nice to her already. Don't give her anything.
post #6 of 28
Whoa, relax a minute, Johnson. My suggestion to Louanne was a smile-but-you're-not-getting-a-damn-thing response that can be posted on Facebook without appearing to be a jerk and without starting a war. No one needs a war.

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post #7 of 28
To play devil's advocate, in her mind since you were willing to give away your physical property (boxes and boards) and offered free business advice, the rest of your IP must be similarly valued.

I wonder how she would respond if you offered to sell her the cupcakes wholesale (assuming you can do that from home in your state).
post #8 of 28
Tell her she can buy your recipes if she really wants them, then tell her some outlandish price!!
post #9 of 28
I agree with Mimi.

Personally I can be a bear if crossed, but snide remarks, no matter how deserved, come across badly in business. Mimi's way was saying, "No", but avoiding looking bad and actually provided a gracious response.

Very southern of you, Mimi.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by MimiFix

She sounds like a manipulative, selfish witch. I suggest you post on her Facebook page that you're sorry for her misunderstanding about the recipes, that your cookbook is underway, and when it's published you will gift her with a copy.



'Gift' her a copy my eye! She's got enough free stuff !
I know that you know that you went above and beyond in helping her as much as you've already done, and unfortunately, this turned out to be a case of no good deed going unpunished. Leave her to burn in the lumpy, flavourless batter that is her life. Selfish indeed! Ooooooh! Some people!!
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post #12 of 28
A rude outlandish request does not have to be met with a polite response. Jason, I agree on your one point- not so much for what she asked for (as she may not appreciate the work that went into it) but her attitude and blackmail ploys.

That is why is too say, "gift her a copy"......? My a**. I did not say publicly post it that way on Facebook, but ....
post #13 of 28
The nerve of some people. It's the age of entitlement.

I'd make her pay double the cost of the cookbook.
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post #14 of 28
And this is why most people do not deserve anything handed for free, ever.

The worst part from what I noticed is that she also got your old customers ? She should be thankfull because that in itself is worth alot in buisness.

The funny part is, if your recipe were so " simple ", why does she keep failing so horribly at reproducing them?

Sometimes I wonder what planet some people are from when they feel they are so entitled from the rest of the world.
post #15 of 28
A simple "I'd be happy to sell you my recipes, how many are you interested in" should surfice. I bet she'll no longer be interested.
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