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So frustrated.....i just hope the bride misunderstood...

post #1 of 70
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Just got a phone call from a freaked out bride. She got a call from her venue, city civic center, informing her that all vendors now must have that city's business license. What in the world? How can they require that? We leave in an area of a whole bunch of towns, big and small, many don't even have borders and separations between then. All vendors routinely cross over between city and county borders. Some vendors even come from out of state because we are so close to neighboring states. My first thought was that the bride has misunderstood and the venue just requires that vendors are properly licensed, which is not a big deal and seems common, however, the bride told me no, she specifically questioned the requirement and only vendors with that city business license will be allowed. Of course, I cannot get anyone to return my calls this afternoon, so will start the chase tomorrow morning. There is no way I can get a city license since my business is not in that city's limits. If that what's required, what am I supposed to do? Terminate the contract and refund the payments that the bride can rebook with another vendor? And what if there is no other vendor available? The wedding is next month. There is only one bakery in that town and they may very well be booked. What, bride is left without a cake? That's just nuts....
post #2 of 70
I really hope the bride misunderstood. That sounds like a pretty ridiculous rule. I hope things clear up quickly! You'll have to keep us updated on what the venue says.
post #3 of 70
Hopefully this is a big misunderstanding!!

If not, could it be that the venue wants to guarantee that only certain vendors will be able to provide services there? And why on earth wouldn't they tell that to the bride when she booked her reception in the first place?!?
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post #4 of 70
That just doesn't make any sense! We have delivered to several venues outside of the city we are licensed in and never had a problem. I hope you find out that's not really the case!
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post #5 of 70
That just doesn't make any sense! We have delivered to several venues outside of the city we are licensed in and never had a problem. I hope you find out that's not really the case!
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post #6 of 70
Maybe someone from the brides family could pick it up, can they bring products in that they buy elsewhere? That way maybe you wouldn't be technically servicing the venue? Just an idea, may get lucky. Who knows where they got the cake from if they bring it in themselves?
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post #7 of 70
Maybe someone from the brides family could pick it up, can they bring products in that they buy elsewhere? That way maybe you wouldn't be technically servicing the venue? Just an idea, may get lucky. Who knows where they got the cake from if they bring it in themselves?
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post #8 of 70
I hope thats a misunderstanding. I know that I live in a rual area and am not required to have a city business lic unless the money transaction takes place in the city. So maybe if you get ahold of someone at the venue explain to them that the cake was purchased in your city and is just being delivered
post #9 of 70
Not to be the devil's advocate, but is there a chance she had a change of heart and just wants her money back? Because that is stupid, makes no sense, and seems like a big fat lie.
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post #10 of 70
I don't think that the bride misunderstood. My husband and I have a glass business where we live and we HAVE to have a business license for every city/town that we do business in. I know that it seems crazy, but it is how the city/towns pay the inspectors for the area. All that you need to do is go purchase a business license for the area, most of them will cover a $1000 min of sales, and will usually run 25-45 dollars depending on the area.

As others have suggested, the only way to get around it would be to have one of the family members bring it in if the venue allows, because the total sale would then have been completed in your area.
post #11 of 70
If that IS the case then wouldn't you think the bride would have some sort of legal recourse since the venue didn't tell her of the requirement when she booked with them?
Especially since the wedding is NEXT month!?! How on earth do they expect her to be able to change her vendors?
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post #12 of 70
It is a very silly "rule" for venues to have... but more and more recently, I have had this issue with my wedding cakes. In most cases, I have been able to contact the venue, and ask if any outside insurance was available to purchase, so I could create the cake as planned. Only once has this been unsuccessful. There are several event insurance companies that provide a one time insurance policy, making it possible for small vendors like myself. I actually had one Bride tell her venue flat out that if they would not allow me to do her wedding cake... that she would be changing venues!! I felt so honored!!! Just have your Bride do a little research and see what happens.
post #13 of 70
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I don't know y'all. I'll have to figure this thing out tomorrow. I cannot get that city's license because I don't have a physical location there. Even if I could get a license, the license is $100.00. And if I could get a city license at a "different" location, I'll be responsible for city, county, state sales taxes for that location. Even if it does not make any money, i have to file 3 returns every month till the rest of the year. The whole thing is very strange, I wouldn't think that the venue can change rules like that on a whim. What is the bride supposed to do? Her caterer and florist is from another city and county as well, and both of those businesses will actually be on location working. I'm just dropping off the cakes that were made at my shop, which is properly licensed and inspected and all that jazz. Weird, just weird...will be chasing after someone tomorrow to get this resolved one way or another.
post #14 of 70
It is not a silly rule, it is a law. It is the law everywhere you go. In order to do business in an area, you must have a license and pay appropriate taxes. And yes, there are set boundaries for every city and town. Many cities have B&O (Business and Occupation) taxes that you must pay. It is usually less than 1%, but must be paid on ALL transactions within the city limits. Every business must comply with the appropriate business and tax licenses.

For out of state transactions, there is an act called the Fair Trade Between States Act which allows businesses within a reasonable driving distance near a state line to sell across the line without having a FEDERAL FDA license. But you must still follow every rule and every code that the other area has, including a possible business license, and most importantly, their local sales tax license.

You are supposed to comply with every HD line you cross. This means establishing a delivery area and checking with each one. If your county is lax in laws and the next county is srtrict (drains in floors, specific sink size, etc.), then you cannot deliver to that area until you are up to code. I know this first hand. My brother-in-law has a restaurant one county over that gives out HD licenses with little regard to food safety. He wanted to cater my mother-in-law's anniversary sale at her store and he was stopped.

I am on a state line and do business in three counties, two in WV and one in MD. In each county, I need a business license, must comply with all county HD rules, can be inspected by all three HD inspectors, and can be inspected by the FDA. I also pay sales tax to each state and must keep a record of sales from each state. So far, I have not done business within the one city that has B & O tax, but when I do, I will need a city license and a B&O tax account.

These rules and laws have always been there. All other businesses pay them and so must bakers and decorators. The HD's have found that there are too many illegal bakers and out-of-area bakers to police, so they are cracking down on the venues to try to stop, or at least slow down, the volume of people who are unlicensed and who are not paying appropriate taxes.
post #15 of 70
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I'm sorry I do not understand your post scp and I usually can follow you pretty well. I'm not crossing any county lines or state lines. I am paying city sales tax for my city (where I hold my license and where my shop is and where the transaction took place), county sales tax and state sales tax. I do not fall under any other county's or state's Health Department regulations because first of all I do not bake/decorate in any other jurisdiction and then don't even cross those borders to deliver the cake. This specific venue always required vendors to have business license but it was never required to have that specific city business license. That is a new thing apparently.
So what are you telling me?
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