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post #1 of 43
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I have never used dragees before, but I love the way the look, and was thinking about ordering some to use for cakes and cupcakes. I have read just about everywhere that they should not be eaten because they are basically coated in metal, and that's fine. What I don't understand is how some beautiful cakes can be encased in them. I just really can't see telling a client that every guest is going to have to meticulously take off all of the decorations before eating their cake, or they risk getting poisoned. For some reason I just can't figure out how to tell someone their wedding cake is coated in something that is dangerous if eaten. How do you guys explain this to clients? Do they ever react poorly to this?
post #2 of 43
Here in California that decision is easy...no one in the state sells dragees (and online retailers do not ship them to CA) because of a lawsuit filed in 2003.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/12/23/MNGS03SUEM1.DTL&ao=all
post #3 of 43
They are primarily sugar. The amount of dragees it would take to make someone sick would make them sick anyway even if they didn't have a metallic coating. Which many don't. There are the sugar dragees that are pearlized that are completely edible as well as the shiny ones. I would not want to coat anything with the silver or gold ones anyway because they are very hard and probably stand a better chance of chipping your teeth than sending you into a toxic overload.

Metallic Dragees are usually used sparingly and as accents here and there. When they are used as part of a flower, or in something like that, chances are they won't get eaten anyway. Don't fear the dragee.

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post #4 of 43
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I have seen the pearlized ones without metal, but I was talking more about the metallic ones. I was definitely worried about poisoning people lol. I will have to get some and try them out! Thanks!
post #5 of 43
Wait....No where in CA sells these? This is crazy I looked in every supermarket for these little silver balls to put on a cake as a necklace/dog tag I could not locate them anywhere. Then I found a cake supply shop that had all different sizes. Could it be possible they have non-toxic ones.
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I am affraid I bought toxic silver balls. I do not sell my cakes they are only for friends and family but I dont want to make someone sick. Should I throw them out? Should I ask the retail shop if they are suppossed to be selling them?
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post #6 of 43
Silver is toxic, but the amount of silver in dragees is so small it should not cause a problem, as said above I would be more worried about chipping a tooth -- which is a real liability concern considering dragees are marked "for decoration only".

I would definitely remove the dragees before serving (or tell whoever is serving to do so).

As to why the cake supply shop was selling them, it's possible that they have not heard of the lawsuit threat. It's not illegal to sell dragees in CA, but no one is willing to take the risk for the small reward.
post #7 of 43
If these were actually that bad for people they would have been banned everywhere for sale. The lawyer is an environmentalist that thinks he should protect anyone who would eat these. There have been absolutley no cases of health risk to dragees. In another article that I read it was stated that to actually have a lead or silver potential hazard a person would have to eat more than a dump truck of them all at once. If you are too concerned about this then don't use them.

It takes one person suing to make people not want any potential bad publicity to settle. i will still use them and always have. It is your choice to make.
post #8 of 43
Awesome thanks for the good info. I like to try and stay on the up & up
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post #9 of 43
As for the cake store selling in CA - they probably had to get them imported from France or another country - no US supplier will ship to California. The cake store can sell them, but they have to be "behind the counter" and/or away from other edibles, and the package has to be marked "for decorative purposes only, not for human consumption" or something like that. This is what my local cake store told me several months ago when I asked them how they were selling them!

I have some that I have considered using in the center of a gumpaste flower or something I know has no chance of being eaten, but I keep chickening out. It's not worth it to me.
post #10 of 43
Wow! Lots of good information, thanks for posting.
post #11 of 43
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Originally Posted by cakecraving

Wait....No where in CA sells these? This is crazy I looked in every supermarket for these little silver balls to put on a cake as a necklace/dog tag I could not locate them anywhere. Then I found a cake supply shop that had all different sizes. Could it be possible they have non-toxic ones.
I take Jason Kraft very seriously and I love that he always answers questions and attaches articles to back up his story. I follow a lot of his posts.
I am affraid I bought toxic silver balls. I do not sell my cakes they are only for friends and family but I dont want to make someone sick. Should I throw them out? Should I ask the retail shop if they are suppossed to be selling them?



Oh brother. This just kills me. Anyone can walk buck naked down public streets in San Francisco but you can't buy dragees there or anywhere in California for cake decoration. This is insane. I'd be more afraid of what's flying off of naked man and landing on me than what a tiny silver sugar ball would do to me on a cake. Dragees have been sold for DECADES at grocery stores with no problem. I don't believe I've ever heard of one 'death by dragee'. And now you have people scared to death of the food police because of a lawsuit won by a so-called 'environmentalist' who, I'm sure in his benevolent action, didn't make a dime of profit off the suit since he was doing it merely to 'protect the people.' (said with a heavy dose of sarcasm) This is very sad.
You won't hurt anyone if you use them for decor. I don't think you have toxic silver balls. You have dragees that up until a few years ago, were sold everywhere in grocery stores. Like I said before...do not fear the dragee. It's the people who WANT you to fear them that I'm afraid of!

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post #12 of 43
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I know Tulsa, us kooks in San Francisco who run around naked rubbing our naughty bits all over your cake are a scary bunch. In fact, I keep my skin nice and soft by bathing in the butter I put into my buttercream. Don't even ask me how I bake my bread or pickle my cucumbers icon_eek.gif

It's not just CA, FYI. You will be disqualified from a cake competition for using non-edible dragees on your cake. They are not considered a food item. The end.
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I know Tulsa, us kooks in San Francisco who run around naked rubbing our naughty bits all over your cake are a scary bunch. In fact, I keep my skin nice and soft by bathing in the butter I put into my buttercream. Don't even ask me how I bake my bread or pickle my cucumbers icon_eek.gif

It's not just CA, FYI. You will be disqualified from a cake competition for using non-edible dragees on your cake. They are not considered a food item. The end.



So glad you're keeping your pickles well oiled! Now just keep a net on ALL your hair as you're walking naked around my cake and I'll be happy! icon_biggrin.gif
My point was that I thought it a bit strange that in the state of California, there is more concern over using a tiny sugar dragee on cake than there is with what to ME is a very unsanitary (and I'm sure sometimes unsightly) icon_surprised.gif situation in one of it's cities!

Somehow, walking around with your hoo-ha waving in the breeze and sitting with one's bare assets on restaurant or public chairs doesn't seem to pose any kind of health concern...but put a half dozen silver dragees on a cupcake and it's call the FDA!

They may be considered non-edible NOW...but that was only after someone sued. Such is our society today. And that's the naked truth! icon_twisted.gif

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post #14 of 43
OK, wait, are you serious? You actually think there are people naked eating in restaurants and whatnot all over here in SF?

That's completely ridiculous. And one of the funniest things I've read on here for a while LOL
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OK, wait, are you serious? You actually think there are people naked eating in restaurants and whatnot all over here in SF?

That's completely ridiculous. And one of the funniest things I've read on here for a while LOL



This totally cracked me up. LOL

Does anyone EVER walk around naked (other than Pride week)??
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