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post #16 of 30
2/16/12 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by ChilliPepper

Hmmm - my thinking on this is that using a machine to create your icing decorations is not really creating anything! Where's the skill in that????????



Using a machine-cut design allows the caker to spend more time on another, more extensive/complicated design element. Or perhaps the caker has a rush job. And then there's the bride who says "I want this design on my cake and I want it *perfect*! Some of those cuttable designs would be impossible to do "perfectly" by hand.

I hope I die before "your" is the official contraction of "you are."

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post #17 of 30
2/16/12 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by Vista

I personally love my expression and cake, but would NOT own or use them without a program like MTC or SCAL. I never would have purchased either of these machines had those programs not been available.


This statement is exactly why PC filed the lawsuit. If their business model involves selling the cutter at a discount and making up the profit on the cartridges, PC would have been better off if you had never bought a cricut in the first place since you will never buy the cartridges.
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post #18 of 30
2/16/12 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by jason_kraft

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Originally Posted by Vista

I personally love my expression and cake, but would NOT own or use them without a program like MTC or SCAL. I never would have purchased either of these machines had those programs not been available.


This statement is exactly why PC filed the lawsuit. If their business model involves selling the cutter at a discount and making up the profit on the cartridges, PC would have been better off if you had never bought a in the first place since you will never buy the cartridges.



Perhaps, however I would have been willing to pay more for the machine, if it had more functionality. I would also still be willing to purchase some of their images if they weren't so ridiculously over priced (carts are $60-$80). Most of the time I would only use 1 or 2 images on the carts, and only a hand full of times, I am not willing to spend $80 for 10 cuts. I love the idea of being able to purchase individual images and think that PC would sell way more if they offered the option. People don't blink over spending $5, but $80 is something most of us have to budget for. They are MORE than making up the difference in price with cartridge purchases, to the point of ripping people off!

I will admit, I did not do my research before purchasing my Cricut. Had I known that PC didn't support 3rd party applications, or offer a similar software product, I would have spent more on a product that did not limit my creativity to the images they produced.
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post #19 of 30
2/16/12 at 3:17pm
why is silhouette not being sued , if their machine is similar?
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post #20 of 30
2/16/12 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by Vista

It appears that the lawsuit is an extension of the previous lawsuit. PC is alleging that the owners of MTC have not stopped the use of the software that was sold prior to the first lawsuit. Additionally there are Ebay listings for a plug-in that will make the newest version of MTC work with machines. It is not MTC selling this information, but an individual.

I really think this is ridiculous!! I personally love my expression and cake, but would NOT own or use them without a program like MTC or SCAL. I never would have purchased either of these machines had those programs not been available.



I never felt comfortable mentioning this before in Cricut threads, but back in November when they were on sale and I researched them, it was very easy to see how to mod MTC to work with the cricut again. They left all the information available in public forums. They only removed one .dll to make it non compatible and simply Googling the .dll name lets you find a link to download it. I always wondered why people were saying MTC no longer worked over the months when it was so easy to find out it could with a search... icon_confused.gif

On that note, it is so wrong people are learning about the .dll and finding a way to profit from it on Ebay! Money money money.... people find so many methods to grab it where they can. icon_sad.gif I want some money too! icon_sad.gif
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post #21 of 30
2/16/12 at 4:16pm
I recently got the Silhouette Cameo for my birthday from hubby (before I started in on the whole cake decorating obsession). Love the Cameo but does anyone know if I can use it to cut fondant?
Thanks! Wow, it seems like I am always asking questions...
Debslynn
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post #22 of 30
2/16/12 at 4:32pm
If you have ever tried to get up and running with a Silhouette you would never say that it takes no skills. There's a steep learning curve to these types of machines and you seriously can't be afraid of computers to accomplish it. I'm sure that florists were appalled when sugar flowers became popular - is creating flowers out of sugar "cheating". No, it's just another vehicle to get you from point A to point B, and so isn't the Silhouette.
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post #23 of 30
2/16/12 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by Debslynn

I recently got the Silhouette Cameo for my birthday from hubby (before I started in on the whole cake decorating obsession). Love the Cameo but does anyone know if I can use it to cut fondant?
Thanks! Wow, it seems like I am always asking questions...
Debslynn


If you order the cake accessory package from Linda McClure you will receive what you need to use the Cameo for cake decorating.
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post #24 of 30
2/16/12 at 7:58pm
i wonder why PC doesn;t sue the sellers of the cartridges on ebay. Theres no need to spend $60-$80 for a cartridgea that you can get on ebay for $20 or so. I do find it strange that all these sellers are actually from Utah though, where PC is based.
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post #25 of 30
2/16/12 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by sweetcakes

i wonder why PC doesn;t sue the sellers of the cartridges on ebay. Theres no need to spend $60-$80 for a cartridgea that you can get on ebay for $20 or so. I do find it strange that all these sellers are actually from Utah though, where PC is based.


It is perfectly legal to resell a legitimate cartridge, any legit cartridges on eBay selling for $20 are probably manufacturer's overstock or returns from retailers. If they are counterfeit, chances are the seller will be hard to pin down to serve the lawsuit (and judgment-proof if they do get caught), and eBay already has a process in place for taking down counterfeit sales.
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post #26 of 30
2/16/12 at 8:24pm
I see, thanks for clearing that up for me Jason.


It is perfectly legal to resell a legitimate cartridge, any legit cartridges on eBay selling for $20 are probably manufacturer's overstock or returns from retailers. If they are counterfeit, chances are the seller will be hard to pin down to serve the lawsuit (and judgment-proof if they do get caught), and eBay already has a process in place for taking down counterfeit sales.[/quote]
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post #27 of 30
2/17/12 at 6:51am
Sorry about the little hijack. Wow - thanks sweetcakes for the suggestion re: the silhouette cameo. I will be ordering her blade and dvd. Totally agree with posters that cutting out shapes and letters with the silhouette is no differet than using cookie cutters. Still takes talent to place them in a visually attractive way on the cake! Not that I am an expert in caking! But I do have lots of scrapbooking experience and it seems like a similar idea...
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post #28 of 30
3/9/12 at 10:18am
Ok so i'm not sure if this has been answered before or if the answer is obvious but if i purchase the silhouette from linda with the package she has..i will be able to cut out any shape or FONT i would like?

Thanks!
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post #29 of 30
3/9/12 at 11:39am
Just to answer Jason's question, Linda was invited by PC to show them how to use it for cakes. They also then had her demo it, then bumped her out. This is all all very old CC news from way back. She also posted it on her blog. It was a whole lot of hoopla behind it.
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post #30 of 30
3/9/12 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by QTCakes1

Just to answer Jason's question, Linda was invited by PC to show them how to use it for cakes. They also then had her demo it, then bumped her out.


That may be true, but it doesn't speak to whether or not PC had already started developing cake-related applications at the time of the meeting. No one outside of PC knows that, but based on the recent lawsuit they filed they seem to be confident in their ability to prove that the cake application was already under development (unless it is a giant bluff).
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