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HELP! Bottom tier is failing.....

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I've made a WASC cake with a 12" bottom, 9" middle and 6" top tier. The bottom is collapsing on one side. I have cardboard separators between the tiers as well as some dowels. I thought for sure it would be strong enough. Did I do something wrong? Any recommendations?
post #2 of 13
Is it already stacked? If so, unstack it and see if one of the dowels slid sideways or something. Leave it unstacked until you know for sure the problem is fixed.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yes, it was already stacked. The dowels were apparently too small, slid sideways and the bottom layer cracked. Thank goodness I had enough time to bake the bottom layer again. Better now than later. icon_sad.gif What size dowels do you usually use on bottom tiers for heavy cakes? I guess this is the heaviest one I've made so far. I've never had this problem before.
post #4 of 13
Dowels/straws that are about 1/4" wide are enough. Look at the ones Wilton sells at a store to understand the size.
How many dowels did you use and how did you measure how tall they needed to be?
A WASC cake is not really that heavyicon_smile.gif To support a 9" tier you should use 5 to 7 dowels spread around an 8" circle. - none in the middle.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
I used 1/4" dowels but I only used 4. Next time I'll put 6 or 7 in. Lesson learned.... icon_redface.gif
post #6 of 13
"slid sideways" That's always the problem, or potential problem with dowels. Because they DON'T CONNECT to anything, when they go even a wee bit off perfectly perpendicular, they can cause your cake to fall.

Seriously, get yourself SPS at your earliest moment.
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post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leah_s

"slid sideways" That's always the problem, or potential problem with dowels. Because they DON'T CONNECT to anything, when they go even a wee bit off perfectly perpendicular, they can cause your cake to fall.

Seriously, get yourself SPS at your earliest moment.



Definitely! I'm not going thru this again. What a mess. Thanks for the help icon_smile.gif
post #8 of 13
Hey twinsplus14me, I was wondering what your name means? Please tell me that is not how many kids you have icon_eek.gif
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post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Annabakescakes

Hey twinsplus14me, I was wondering what your name means? Please tell me that is not how many kids you have icon_eek.gif



I think she has 3 children... twins plus 1, for her. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by cakeandpartygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by Annabakescakes

Hey twinsplus14me, I was wondering what your name means? Please tell me that is not how many kids you have icon_eek.gif



I think she has 3 children... twins plus 1, for her. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif



Ahhhh! I get it! lol! I have twins plus 2, then!
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post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
icon_eek.gif I have 3, a set of twins and a little surprise package that arrived 7 years later.
post #12 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by leah_s

"slid sideways" That's always the problem, or potential problem with dowels. Because they DON'T CONNECT to anything, when they go even a wee bit off perfectly perpendicular, they can cause your cake to fall.

Seriously, get yourself SPS at your earliest moment.



What is SPS??
post #13 of 13
SPS instructions are on a Sticky at the top of the Cake Decorating Forum. Go to page 15 of the Sticky
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