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post #16 of 58
The way I look at it...If nobody is complaining about your prices then they are definitely too low!
post #17 of 58
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Originally Posted by luvbug2552

I've been lucky to have only one customer in the year and a half that I've been doing cakes for people other than family to complain about the price. ..

I'd be raising my prices then. I'd be willing to bet you are giving your products away then, especially when you say "not a lot more than Walmart!" icon_smile.gif
post #18 of 58
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Originally Posted by kathie-d

The way I look at it...If nobody is complaining about your prices then they are definitely too low!

Exactly! I know for a fact that the one or two I will do in a weekend pay more than the 3 or 4 others in my area do in a week. No thanks....that's so not worth my time.
post #19 of 58
In responce to mariacakestoo. That was for that one cake that was rather simple. I still made a nice profit. As with all my cakes.
post #20 of 58
Good to hear, which means you probably aren't undercutting the others in your area too. Don't take my comments personally, no one wants to see someone give their hard work away. icon_wink.gif
post #21 of 58
For family member with rediculous requests, say, "you don't want me to do that cake. it is $$$. I was planning a gift of $$ and I'm sure you don't want to pay the difference". They have two choices. Accept your gift or pay the difference. I am very giving with my family, but sometimes the kids get a little crazy with their requests.
post #22 of 58
scp1127, that would be a great response if I had a reason to give that gift. My daughter wants me to make things for her to give to people that I don't even know or have no reason to give them a gift. And knowing my DD she would say she'll pay the difference, rofl...
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post #23 of 58
auntginn, how old is your daughter? Mine are teen and twenties. When they want a cake, they become my minions. They love it. They can give a cake and I have assistants and maids. Plus we have a great time. If your daughter is younger, it's a great opportunity for her to assist you with her requests.
post #24 of 58
scp1127 My daughter is already a grandmother herself, she doesn't like working in the business but she does promote me to all her friends and relatives. Her daughter loves the biz, so I guess theres my trade off, lol..
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post #25 of 58
Completely relating!! I combat it by asking for a theme and a budget. I will tell them what I am "willing" to do for that. I always end up over doing it, But I do make sure to let them know when I give them the cake how much I would "normally" charge for it. Then they appreciate the cake more, and do not flinch so much the next time they have a request.

Just yesterday I had shown someone a picture of one of my very large carved cakes and told him that if I were to do it for a customer (it was for my son's birthday) it would have cost about $300 minimum. He looked at me and said "Why so much? What is so difficult about that?" icon_eek.gif I just wanted to say "well then you do it, and tell me how much it is worth!!"

We are not just charging for materials and time, we are charging for the experience we have. It is our experience that makes our cakes so wonderful!! Just because I can now do an intricate design in half the time it used to take me doesn't mean that I should receive half the compensation!! [/u]
post #26 of 58
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Originally Posted by TexasSugar

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Originally Posted by Dayyi

But they will go to local grocery stores and buy their frozen cakes and bucket icing. Go ahead vent with me? icon_cry.gif



Then let them!

I'm past the I want to do every cake offered to me to practice. If I want to practice now, I'd rather do a cake just because, with the theme I want and to practice what I want, and give it away to people that will appreciate it.

If they don't want to pay for my time, then you know what, I'll take that time and use it for what ever I want to do. Because in the end that makes me more happy. I'd rather not do a cake, then do a cake that I'm pissy about because I'm barely making any money off it, because they want something cheap.



Couldn't have said it better myself!!!
post #27 of 58
I think that unless you are a genius of a sculptor and can whip up/carve sculptures in no time, then these cakes are labor intensive. It took me 3 hours yesterday to sculp a tiny cat in a basket with his rag doll, ball, favorite blankie on a rug. (yes, he's been gone a couple yrs. now, but he was given a rag doll and he refused to give it uo, I threw it away & bought him a new one, he refused it.-the cat was my sister's and I'm recreating him for one of her bday cakes-sorry we adored him).

Anyway, I'm new at edible figurines & sculpting but gosh it takes hours to get it halfway right.

Even on the cake shows, it takes hours and multiple individuals are working on thecakes. Besides they edit the hours it takes-we never see every step of the actual work.
post #28 of 58
Set your prices and stand firm. Take everything in consideration when doing so, what you can or can't do and what the others in your area are charging. When you get hagglers or the "I can get this at so and so much cheaper" politely thank them for contacting you and instruct them where "so and so" is located. Don't back down. Always remember if you were in the market to do charity work you would be volunteering somewhere for folks that were truly in need.

I list my prices on my website as "starts at" If they don't understand that they probably not the customer base I wanted anyway. And sometimes it wouldn't matter if it was written in billboard size letters some folks are truly clueless.
If you can't find time it do it right..how will you find time to do it over?
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post #29 of 58
Thank you CakeLady, for reminding me. Its what I've preached for years to my students but the last couple of weeks have seemed like hell dealing with these people. I have been asking myself where have they been hiding all this time.

I have been feeling bad all day over a price quote that I felt was very generous but am now getting the cold shoulder. I hate it!! Just gonna turn around and walk away, bet I'll sleep better.
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post #30 of 58
This topic has had me sick all week. I've been working towards getting my kitchen licensed and have been all doing the necessary homework, and part of that is for me to price out what I would charge for each cake I give away. I made the mistake of asking my mom and sisters what they thought was a fair price for my most recent cake, and they all quoted about a third of what I would've charged. That was a big let-down, but they seem to think this stuff just comes easy to me.

The other thing I am starting to consider would be to charge a minimum amount. It isn't really something I had thought about before, but when someone wants a relatively small cake (like an 8") with lots of detail, I don't think they understand that it still takes the same amount of time to decorate it as it would take to decorate a larger cake. I mean really, doing a small cake for $40 still occupies nearly as much kitchen time as a much larger cake - there isn't a tremendous difference. Do most of you guys who are in the business charge a minimum amount?
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