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post #1 of 168
Thread Starter 
For some time now i have wondered how some CC's know if someone can /should bake and sell a cake.

I see newbies come on and post a question about what to charge for a certain style of cake - and next minute - they are being put through the wringer as to............ do they have workers comp - public liability - this insurance -that insurance - this document - passed this and that inspection - jumped through all 10 hoops - etc.

I am thinking that there must be a site/list somewhere for you to click on and view so as to see what City - Town - State - County - Suburb - Street has which laws.

Truely - how do you know?
Some members don't even have where they live in their location - so how do you know to ask these questions - OR - has it just become parrot fashion to ask everyone who dares ask - how much do i charge?

Because sometimes the OP comes back and says - Yes, i am legal - but i never see the CCer putting them through the wringer come back and apologise for asking so many questions - and sometimes it is in a rather brash manner.

Yes, yes - i know i can be brash at tines - but thats another thread - icon_rolleyes.gificon_wink.gif


If i see a fellow Australian come on and ask "how much would you charge" - i would not have a clue as to whether they are legal or illegal - let alone what laws are set in their area.

So it has me curious as to how some in the USA know what laws are set for every different place.....


Just asking -

Bluehue
post #2 of 168
When I first joined CC it was different. There were more home bakers and others didn't make an issue if they were legal or not they just helped with the question.

I don't come here much anymore because it's different. If someone wants to comtribute to a thread they need to keep those issues to themselves.

There are many issues that can stir up the pot that should be avoided but the're not.

It's the individual's business if they are legal others should move on.

All I can suggest to you, if you come across the rude members just move on to another thread.
legal, not legal, I don't care
legal, not legal, I don't care
post #3 of 168
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Janette

When I first joined CC it was different. There were more home bakers and others didn't make an issue if they were legal or not they just helped with the question.

I don't come here much anymore because it's different. If someone wants to comtribute to a thread they need to keep those issues to themselves.

There are many issues that can stir up the pot that should be avoided but the're not.

It's the individual's business if they are legal others should move on.

All I can suggest to you, if you come across the rude members just move on to another thread.



Points taken thumbs_up.gif - i just thought there must have been a Google List for the States.....as we don't have anything like that over here.

Bluehue
post #4 of 168
There is a list, actually. http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-586218.html

Personally, I don't care if someone is legal or not. I only mention it if it directly affects what they're asking.
post #5 of 168
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Rose

There is a list, actually. http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-586218.html
Good grief - there is - how about that icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
I often wondered how some *knew*
Thanks Texas Rose -


Personally, I don't care if someone is legal or not. I only mention it if it directly affects what they're asking.

Being way over here it doesn't concern me either - as i said - i just wondered how some *know* to ask all the questions they do -

Blue.
post #6 of 168
The questions I (and others) ask when people post questions about pricing without mentioning what steps they have taken to get legal are important points to consider. You may consider it being put through the wringer, but like it or not you play by a different set of rules as soon as you accept compensation for something you've baked.

The legal aspect also directly impacts pricing -- if you have license fees, inspection fees, insurance premiums, etc. you need to take those into account when pricing your products to ensure you are profitable. But if the place you live allows commercial home baking then your prices could be considerably lower.

I also don't think it's necessary to apologize for asking questions based on the available information in the OP if said questions turn out to be moot based on followup posts. Part of the problem is that there is no master list of what's legal where, so forums like this are where a lot of people get this type of information.

When asking these questions, the worst case scenario would be the OP following up stating that they have already considered the legal aspects of their business and the thread would move on from there. The best case scenario would be the OP getting useful information and making an informed decision on how to proceed with their business.

If no one brings up these points and the OP forges ahead without knowing what's legal and what's not (and more importantly protecting themselves from liability) they could face a financial disaster down the road. There have been threads here where people have lost their homes because they did not have adequate protection from liability.
post #7 of 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by jason_kraft

There have been threads here where people have lost their homes because they did not have adequate protection from liability.



I must have missed those threads. Links? Or any details you can remember that would help me search for those threads?
post #8 of 168
post #9 of 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by jason_kraft

Here's the example that stuck out in my mind:
http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=6948695&sid=0f3281abd34905938ad9a31b079af80e



Thanks. I had read that first one before. Relating a story that one heard somewhere from someone who knew someone it happened to is sort of venturing into the territory of urban legend.

The second one is more interesting, though. I'd be interested in details...what she was making that actually made people sick, which illness they came down with, etc. There's just enough info there to make me curious and not enough to really look it up.
post #10 of 168
Yes I get very tired of certain threads with simple questions becoming the target of the "CC legal police".

I also feel sad when I see somebody with a question and they feel like they have to say "I have a question but first yes I am licensed, yes I have insurance, no I don't put bare wires in cakes, yes I sanitize my dishes, yes I wash my hands six times in bleach every time I touch the cake, yes my cake board is food safe, yes I have insurance on the vehicle that transports my cakes, yes my clients sign contracts, yes I take deposits, and yes, I've contacted my lawyer about everything else.....and yes, I bake from scratch. Now about my question....."

LOL.
post #11 of 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitagrl

Yes I get very tired of certain threads with simple questions becoming the target of the "CC legal police".

I also feel sad when I see somebody with a question and they feel like they have to say "I have a question but first yes I am licensed, yes I have insurance, no I don't put bare wires in cakes, yes I sanitize my dishes, yes I wash my hands six times in bleach every time I touch the cake, yes my cake board is food safe, yes I have insurance on the vehicle that transports my cakes, yes my clients sign contracts, yes I take deposits, and yes, I've contacted my lawyer about everything else.....and yes, I bake from scratch. Now about my question....."

LOL.



That's true. There used to be a lot more information shared and less judging going on.
post #12 of 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitagrl

Yes I get very tired of certain threads with simple questions becoming the target of the "CC legal police".

I also feel sad when I see somebody with a question and they feel like they have to say "I have a question but first yes I am licensed, yes I have insurance, no I don't put bare wires in cakes, yes I sanitize my dishes, yes I wash my hands six times in bleach every time I touch the cake, yes my cake board is food safe, yes I have insurance on the vehicle that transports my cakes, yes my clients sign contracts, yes I take deposits, and yes, I've contacted my lawyer about everything else.....and yes, I bake from scratch. Now about my question....."

LOL.



This definitely made me giggle!
post #13 of 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitagrl

"I have a question but first yes I am licensed, yes I have insurance, no I don't put bare wires in cakes, yes I sanitize my dishes, yes I wash my hands six times in bleach every time I touch the cake, yes my cake board is food safe, yes I have insurance on the vehicle that transports my cakes, yes my clients sign contracts, yes I take deposits, and yes, I've contacted my lawyer about everything else.....and yes, I bake from scratch. Now about my question....."



ROTFL!!!! Can I PLEASE use this as my tag line here on CC!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
We are each of us angels with only one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another.
- Luciano de Crescenzo
We are each of us angels with only one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another.
- Luciano de Crescenzo
post #14 of 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebrina

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitagrl

"I have a question but first yes I am licensed, yes I have insurance, no I don't put bare wires in cakes, yes I sanitize my dishes, yes I wash my hands six times in bleach every time I touch the cake, yes my cake board is food safe, yes I have insurance on the vehicle that transports my cakes, yes my clients sign contracts, yes I take deposits, and yes, I've contacted my lawyer about everything else.....and yes, I bake from scratch. Now about my question....."



ROTFL!!!! Can I PLEASE use this as my tag line here on CC!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif



LOL...we probly all should...so we don't have to type it each time. haha.
post #15 of 168
Ha!Ha! Kitagrl..You made me laugh...

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