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post #16 of 115
Portland, Ore. -- Scammers are targeting small Portland-area businesses in the wedding industry.

A local bakery is the latest to get hit. The Sweetness Bakery and Café in Southeast Portland just lost several thousand dollars to the complicated scam. It all started with an e-mail from a buyer in Toronto.

It's not a hugely unusual request, said Kay Krueger who manages the bakery. I guess I let the flattery of somebody interested in my stuff that lived that far away take over.

It was a very big order, a $2,000 dollar wedding cake. The buyer paid for everything with a Visa card complete with security code and expiration date.

That code is what we depend on to let us know a person is legit, said Krueger.

The bakery spent 60 hours making the cake. At the last minute, the buyer said there was a shipping problem. They wanted more money wired to a new international shipper.

Krueger reluctantly wired the money.

Meanwhile, less than a mile away Peggy Lapoint noticed a massive bill on her Visa card from a bakery she'd never been too.

I could never imagine spending that much money on baked goods -- though I'm sure they're really good, said Lapoint.

Somehow thieves got their hands on Lapoints Visa info and used it to scam Sweetness Bakery.

At first we're thinking it's about a wedding cake and someone is paying for their wedding with our card, then you realize it was never about the cake, said Lapoint.

The elaborate cake eventually spoiled and ended up in the trash.

That hurt, said Kreuger. It makes me sad because it makes me feel suspicious of people and not trust them as much, which bothers me.

Visa reimbursed Lapoint for the credit card fraud, but the bakery still hasn't heard from Visa and will likely never get the cash back from the wire transfer.

Investigators with the Secret Service believe the scam is being operated out of Toronto, Canada and is targeting small businesses everywhere.



There are so many stories just like this one all over the internet. Scumbags!
post #17 of 115
Thread Starter 
I've heard of the other scam involving shipping, but she wants this cake delivered, not shipped anywhere. It is about an hour from me and she is paying $150 for delivery. I do have a paypal account, but she said a money order is in the mail...
post #18 of 115
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Originally Posted by AmyCozze

I've heard of the other scam involving shipping, but she wants this cake delivered, not shipped anywhere. It is about an hour from me and she is paying $150 for delivery. I do have a paypal account, but she said a money order is in the mail...


The money order is probably fake.

I would advise against accepting money with PayPal, especially when you think a scam is involved. It's ridiculously easy for a buyer to dispute a PayPal transaction.
post #19 of 115
Just reading all these stories makes you realize just how easy it is to be scammed. On the one hand you don't want to be taken for a ride and lose out on your time and money. On the other hand you don't want to lose a potential client either. It really puts you in a difficult position.

Maybe ask for more info from her and make sure she is legit?

Whatever you end up doing good luck and keep us posted.
post #20 of 115
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Waiting to see how this pans out. Again, be careful and good luck!
post #21 of 115
Paypal is a great tool to use.

I personally use it all the time to both pay and sell thing on the web; I think that the older people have an issue with paypal.

I have yet to have a problem with them and have used it for over 9 years, they will usually take the side of a seller on a dispute anyways.
post #22 of 115
Here is a related thread about PayPal and how problematic it can be.

http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=720426
post #23 of 115
Ive read several threads about this very same scam. I wouldnt accept the money order, or the order for that matter. If you talk to her again, tell her your not interested. I think it will save you alot of time and headaches! Especially since two different people called you from the same number. You got your scam answer right there!
post #24 of 115
Very fishy. I, too, am betting that the money order will either be fake or will never arrive. Please let us know, either way.

Another thing that's odd to me....those are some of the most exotic flavor profiles I've ever seen. Just accumulating the specific ingredients, perfecting recipes, etc. would be a major $$ investment for most bakers.

Very possible that it's even another baker who's been asked to do this for the $ stated and wants to see if someone else thinks the pricing is reasonable.

I'd say no just based on the fact that I'd have so much $$ invested items that I will probably never fully consume.

When someone makes it hard on me, the answer becomes, "Sorry, I'm booked."

Rae
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I love you, but your emergency is not my crisis!

They say that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.--Terry Pratchett (b.194
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post #25 of 115
Thread Starter 
should I suggest to the first women that we meet in person, and at that point I will need a 50% deposit in cash before proceeding? I have already put in time designing the cake and have had a few phone calls with her, so if she is legitimate, I wouldn't want to turn her away just because I have "a feeling". That seems like bad business. I've only had my own business for 6 mos, so I'm new to everything, am I just being naive?
post #26 of 115
Thread Starter 
I know, the flavors really threw me off too. I've never had someone contact me with such specific over the top requests. So then when I got the 2nd email from the "other woman" with the same types of exotic flavors, I felt like something must be up, unless they somehow know each other...and also both have a speech impediment.... Ok, now I'm starting to feel dumb for even entertaining the thought that this could be legit....
post #27 of 115
Yeah schedule a sit down with her to go over all the details and if she's legit then for sure she will meet you. But if she makes an excuse not to go or is fine and trust you to decide everything then I will think twice. People who order a cake that big and pricey will want to be more involved with the process.
post #28 of 115
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Originally Posted by AmyCozze

should I suggest to the first women that we meet in person, and at that point I will need a 50% deposit in cash before proceeding? I have already put in time designing the cake and have had a few phone calls with her, so if she is legitimate, I wouldn't want to turn her away just because I have "a feeling". That seems like bad business. I've only had my own business for 6 mos, so I'm new to everything, am I just being naive?


I would estimate there's a 90% chance this is a scam, but on the off chance that it's a real order I would agree with your approach of meeting in person and requiring a cash deposit (no checks, no money orders).
post #29 of 115
I know others have said this but PLEASE do not accept a money order. My friend received a money order in the mail from someone last year for a transaction that he was doing. The money order looked completely legit and even his bank deposited it with no problems and cleared the funds. Then about a week later, his bank notified him that they found out the money order was a scam. It was a really weird situation, but just be careful!

I definitely agree with the other posts that you should try to meet her in person and ONLY accept cash.

Good luck and keep us posted on the status.
post #30 of 115
Thread Starter 
Well I just sent her an email explaining the situation and said I would not hold the date unless she was willing to meet in person with a cash deposit, etc. I'll let everyone know how it goes. If I never hear from her again, let it be a lesson to everyone if you recieve a similar request.

It's very dissappointing as this was my first $1000+ cake order since opening my bussiness, and I had a lot of people really excited for me, only for it to be a scam...makes me a little sad..... icon_redface.gif
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