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post #16 of 55
6/2/11 at 9:10am
I own these pans and my experience has been totally different. It took some experimenting but I do not have any problems like you did. I own the round pans and I use flower nails and heating core on a couple. Here is what I have found works for me:

6" round pan--I use 2 flower nails in the deep end of the pan. I bake at 300 degrees.
8" pan--I use 3 or 4 njails and also bake at 300 degrees
10" round- I use 4 nails in the deep end and bake at 300
12" round--I tried with the nails but just baked last weekend with a heating core and WOW what a differnce. I also bake at 300. The heating core made a huge differnce.
14" round-- Only used it once so far and used a heating core and baked at 300, but I turned the heat down to 285 towards the end. I think the next time I will bake it at 285 to 290 with the core and see how that helps.

Overall, I am very happy with the pans. I would definitely try them again using the nails and core cause I think your experience would be better. I know of a few others who also bought them and have been happy too. I hope this helps. thumbs_up.gif
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post #17 of 55
6/2/11 at 9:15am
Samar523 - you would still need to carve 1/4" or so into the tops of each one so that the tier sitting on top would sit level just like the "old fashioned topsy turvy way"

CakesbyLee - thank you for sharing! I can't wait to get mine and try them now!
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post #18 of 55
6/2/11 at 9:40am
I too own these pans and haven't had a problem with them. I did use the large flower nail in them though and cooked a little cooler and longer.

I don't regret buying them. Sorry the OP did not have good luck.
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post #19 of 55
6/2/11 at 10:35am
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Well I just wish the pans had come with the details you have provided about heating cores and lowering the temp.. Since I do want to be able to use them now that I have bought them, I will try your method CakesbyLee. Thanks so much for your help!

Paula, you are right -- the cakes do require some carving.. I'm just wondering what the point is then of using them rather than just doing a little more carving on a regular shaped cake? At least you won't face so many issues with baking, right? My point is, I don't think they are worth the money or anything that special now that I have used them. They don't make the topsy-turvy cake significantly easier in any way.
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post #20 of 55
6/2/11 at 10:58am
I never even considered buying these pans. I took one look at them and thought "How could you possibly cook evenly, even with the help of the cores?" and my second thought was "If I'm carving and cutting anyways, why bother? It doesn't seem to be any easier."

CakesbyLee seems to have a good system down though. Awesome!
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post #21 of 55
6/2/11 at 11:59am
I will agree that I was disappointed that they didn't come with any kind of directions or tips for use. Maybe the word will get back to them and they will start including that in the packaging for future sales.
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post #22 of 55
6/20/11 at 7:30am
I just used this pan set for my first topsy turvy cake and I didn't have any problems with it. I didn't have to use the largest two, I do think some sort of heating core would be a good idea there. I did still have to carve out a level place for the next tier to sit on, but having the cakes nice and even and already "tilted" was a real life saver for me since I'd never done that part. I'm sorry some folks are having such a bad time with them. Fat Daddio's has a chart on their website that shows exactly how much batter to put in the pans, that might help.
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post #23 of 55
6/20/11 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Samar523

Well if someone had a good experience with these, I really would like to hear more about it..

I also don't think it's safe to stack the cakes this way.. as I said in my original post, a hand-carved topsy turvy cake has a FLAT base for each tier to sit on and merely LOOKS like the tiers are slanted. With these pans, the tiers really ARE slanted and could slide right off of one another. If a topsy turvy cake was that easy to assemble, all you would have to do is slice off a chunk of your cakes at an angle and stack them on top of each other. That is essentially what this pan does. This is something I should've thought of before buying them.

As for the uneven baking, I totally blame the company. The pans should be designed in a way that the cakes bake even. If heating cores and what not are needed, the pans should come with them and special instructions on how to use them.

Anyway, this was just my honest feedback and I hope it helped. Those of you who just purchased them, I advise you to leave them in the packaging and send them right back. I am going to contact the company but considering I have already used them and don't have my receipt, I'm not sure what good it'll do. But I do know that if they do not compensate me in some way, I won't be buying from them again because this was an expensive purchase and the product is clearly flawed.



There are different styles of doing Topsy Turvey cakes, and not all of them have a flat base to them. That's why I see some people use a tree's worth of dowels to keep a cake together!
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post #24 of 55
6/20/11 at 3:05pm
Can you return them?..If you are not satisfied..the company should accept them back.
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post #25 of 55
6/20/11 at 3:51pm
For anyone interested, there's Ateco heating cores in a package of 4. They look like the flower nails, but are thicker.

http://www.pastrychef.com/HEATING-CORES_p_1992.html#

I don't have the pans, and I don't use flower nails, but I just came across these and thought I'd share.
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post #26 of 55
6/20/11 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by imagenthatnj

For anyone interested, there's Ateco heating cores in a package of 4. They look like the flower nails, but are thicker.

http://www.pastrychef.com/HEATING-CORES_p_1992.html#

I don't have the pans, and I don't use flower nails, but I just came across these and thought I'd share.

Quick question. Do you really have to use 4 heating cores in a deep pan? if you don't use flower nails what do you use?
ok, thank you!
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post #27 of 55
6/20/11 at 4:06pm
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mplaidgirl2 how do you bake them? I'm curious because I ordered these pans last week and should be getting them soon. It does make sense to use a heating core or a flower nail in the deeper end I may have to try that.



Sorry I just saw this question now... I just use baking strips for anything 8 or under. 10 inch I use baking strips and 1 flower nail. 12 I use baking strip and 3 flower nails.
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post #28 of 55
6/20/11 at 4:37pm
I have this set and the first time I used them I thought I'd be throwing them out the window. After a couple of uses...I kinda like them, now. I over fill them and cut the tops off. As far as flower nails and baking cores...I hate the cores and use nails for flat cakes only. My only complaint would be that the shallow side should be deeper and then proportionately deeper going towards the deep end.
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post #29 of 55
6/20/11 at 4:37pm
I own the pans myself and I didn't have a problem with them.
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post #30 of 55
6/20/11 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by imagenthatnj

For anyone interested, there's Ateco heating cores in a package of 4. They look like the flower nails, but are thicker.

http://www.pastrychef.com/HEATING-CORES_p_1992.html#

I don't have the pans, and I don't use flower nails, but I just came across these and thought I'd share.

Quick question. Do you really have to use 4 heating cores in a deep pan? if you don't use flower nails what do you use?
ok, thank you!



I'll let other people answer this. All my pans are Williams Sonoma Goldtouch. They're all 2" in height. I have 3 of each size so that I can bake 3-layer cakes. They bake well all the time and they bake flat. So I don't do flower nails or heating cores or baking strips.

I just thought that those heating cores from pastrychef.com are interesting because they're in between the big core we all know from Wilton and the flower nails. I might buy them, but I don't have a need for them yet. And I don't have the particular pans discussed in this thread.
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