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post #16 of 36
Still the same message worded differently. We are just not as dumb as you would like for us to be.
post #17 of 36
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The only point I want to make---if you HONESTLY thought that I knew all the ins and outs of self employment as far as running a food service business, you're mistaken. This is all new to me, I am reading and learning new things everyday. I posted the original message before I even spoke to ANYONE about the NC laws, etc.

I would never POST on a public forum something that I knew was potentially illegal. If I was going to intentionally do illegal activity, I wouldn't make it public. I had no idea that doing a small hobby baking business on the side for friends, family, and coworkers could get me in so much trouble.

I DO appreciate the constructive advice and information that some posters gave me..it lets me know that I have to approach this from a different angle and maybe rethink starting this until I can afford to do it the right way.

I DO NOT appreciate those who took the less contsructive approach and started attacking me and accusing me of trying to make everyone look stupid, etc.

Like I said, I do appreciate those who tried to help me. I've learned a lot during this discovery process of self employment (I'm used to working through agencies that already have all the insurance, permits, etc in place for me..I just work and fill out my little tax forms). Everyone has to learn...it's not like I've STARTED baking or have been doing this for years. I was just trying to get all of my ducks in a row.

I now know that if I want to make this happen, I need a commercial kitchen-or to give my pups the boot (not likely). So for now, I will continue just to bake for my friends (let THEM buy the ingredients) and donate my time.

I honestly wasn't trying to make this a huge business right now. I don't have the time for that. I just know that I make killer cupakes, people want them, and I was like "hmph..maybe something can come of this" but after seeing, reading, and learning all that goes into just the intial start up-I will def have to hold off.

My hat goes off to those who do this as a living, running a business is no joke. I hope to continue to be on cakecentral and learn as much as I can from those who have been a success-so that when the time is right I can continue with what I have invisioned.
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post #18 of 36
"getting jumped on"

"fraudulent monster"

Wow, those are harsh words. What in fact is happening is we are telling you the real truth and you are interpreting through a filter in your head that is not allowing you to see this.

You want to sell cupcakes and earn some extra money. On the surface it sounds like a valid thing to do. Then reality hits that it is not as easy at it seems. What all of us here are doing is giving you true sound advice on how to HELP you, not jump on you or call you a "fraudulent monster". You gave no location and you have made 7 posts to CC. You are new and have no idea how we as business people conduct things. We have no idea of where you live, your background or your business sense. For all we know we could have been telling a 16 year old who "likes to bake" how to run the business.

Because we knew nothing about you, we cannot just give you a blanket answer. Because we CARE is why we gave the advice we did. Had we not CARED about the consequence of your actions, we would not have taken the time to read your question, think about it and then type a lengthy answer. All this takes time that I could be doing something else. Instead of appreciating the reality of the truth, you kill the messenger because it is not what you want to hear.

This is the reason why I barely answer newbie questions any more. And especially ones like this.

And BTW, if you had one clue of all the taxes, fees, expenses involved in doing any small business legally (whether it is food relate or not) you would go kiss the feet of every small business owner in your area. I just had this conversation with some one yesterday whose wife tried to make a go of her own business. He told me that once he found out just how much we pay her in NY for being in business he went around thanking every small business owner he visited. Trust me I was not this kind of person before I went into business. And don't get me started on unemployment insurance.

And it is because I have learned so much about running a small business that I feel strongly every citizen should know just what it costs. I now ONLY shop and eat as much as I can at independent small business owned places. They can use all the help they can get.
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post #19 of 36
Thread Starter 
[quote="scp1127"]Still the same message worded differently. We are just not as dumb as you would like for us to be.[/quote]

it's comments like these..that accuse me of wording things to make them fit my "cause" which wasn't even what I was stating in the first place.


Not commenting on Newbie questions because "we have no idea" just means that we will never learn!

It's not that 'it's not what I want to hear' it was the way that some people were posting. I understand this is online and you can't hear the tone in the response, but there are ways to get points across.

See, yet again! I try to thank those that helped me and explain the fact that I am new and didn't know when I originally post..and here someone goes making comments about how I'm only hearing what I want to hear, etc etc...can the negative not be left out??
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post #20 of 36
I'm going to ignore all previous posts and answer the question.

I charge $2 for cupcakes
$2.50-$3 for filled cupcakes
and $3 for cupcakes with fondant toppers.

Fondant toppers could go up depending on detail but thats roughly my pricing.

I also have a 24 cupcake minimum
post #21 of 36
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[quote="mplaidgirl2"]I'm going to ignore all previous posts and answer the question.

I charge $2 for cupcakes
$2.50-$3 for filled cupcakes
and $3 for cupcakes with fondant toppers.

Fondant toppers could go up depending on detail but thats roughly my pricing.

I also have a 24 cupcake minimum[/quote]

Oh okay! Thanks! I think on average here in my general area I've seen $1.50-$2.00 for basic and a dozen minimum. The 24 minimum is great, considering most batches make about that much. I did learn that batter freezes well, which I HAD NO IDEA! Makes me excited because I've had a friend as me to make some for her birthday on Friday but she only wants 12.
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post #22 of 36
You admitted early on that you knew you were in voilation. Then you proceeded to admit it over and over. You understand tax law and that you need a license, but you plan to disregard that. We are commenting on that. Again, You need to go back and read your own posts. I have never seen a member be this bold. And this thread is cached forever. If the IRS takes closer look at you one day, these posts will come back to haunt you.
post #23 of 36
Something else to keep in mind is that as a hobby baker, there are also limitations on the expenses you are allowed to deduct for taxes. So while you want to consider all of the expenses and overhead in your pricing, you may not be able to deduct some of those expenses that are allowed to "for profit" businesses.

I'm not trying to attack you, but its just something you may want to look into.
post #24 of 36
I think there may be a misunderstanding as to what a "hobby baker" is. It sounds like people love your cupcakes and you love making them. Keep doing it! When you're asked to bring a dessert to an event, bring your cupcakes; when a friend has a birthday, make them some cupcakes; when there's a holiday coming up, celebrate at work with cupcakes. Use every chance you get to get your cupcakes into the mouths of your community. Just don't charge. Once you start charging you're no longer a "hobby baker" - you're in business. Even if you're just charging enough to cover cost of ingredients and not making a profit. Until you have the time (lots of time!) and money and are ready to jump (jump!) through all the hoops, you can be getting your name and cupcakes known so you'll have a customer base ready and waiting when you're ready to start your business. You sound like you're maybe early twenties, late teens? You have plenty of time to practice your art, learn new techniques, maybe develop a unique style of recipe or decoration that will really make your product stand out. The people on CC have tons of great advice - use them as your mentors. Accept constructive criticism and don't be too defensive.
That's my motherly advice icon_smile.gif Good luck and now - go bake some cupcakes! icon_biggrin.gif
post #25 of 36
By the way, sweetlittlebakeshop, you are already asking where to find wholesale boxes, you have three orders next week and you can't possibly get your boxes at Michael's and turn a profit. Did you know we can look look up all of your past posts?

You are really something... calling us on the carpet and acting the innocent. We have been one step ahead of you from the first post. It is wrong for you to be so defensive when there are others who are watching these posts and really want to learn something. Your posts are misleading and wrong. We are always happy to help except when the illegalities are thrown in our faces. Most people are more tactful and it doesn't come up.

Edit 744 people have seen these posts and hopefully they are getting the professional information that has been shared.
post #26 of 36
Thread Starter 
[quote="countrycaker"]I think there may be a misunderstanding as to what a "hobby baker" is. It sounds like people love your cupcakes and you love making them. Keep doing it! When you're asked to bring a dessert to an event, bring your cupcakes; when a friend has a birthday, make them some cupcakes; when there's a holiday coming up, celebrate at work with cupcakes. Use every chance you get to get your cupcakes into the mouths of your community. Just don't charge. Once you start charging you're no longer a "hobby baker" - you're in business. Even if you're just charging enough to cover cost of ingredients and not making a profit. Until you have the time (lots of time!) and money and are ready to jump (jump!) through all the hoops, you can be getting your name and cupcakes known so you'll have a customer base ready and waiting when you're ready to start your business. You sound like you're maybe early twenties, late teens? You have plenty of time to practice your art, learn new techniques, maybe develop a unique style of recipe or decoration that will really make your product stand out. The people on CC have tons of great advice - use them as your mentors. Accept constructive criticism and don't be too defensive.
That's my motherly advice icon_smile.gif Good luck and now - go bake some cupcakes! icon_biggrin.gif[/quote]

Thank you for that! You're right... that is ALL I'm trying to do right now is just feed people my cupcakes! I don't want a HUGE PROFIT or any profit for that matter. With a tight budget though I can't afford the gas, electricity, and ingredients involved in the baking. I just wanted to make sure that I was asking people enough money to cover all costs. NO profit being made-just don't want to be at a loss...but I can see how that can be taken wrong.

I'll continue to bake because I enjoy it... my cupcakes make people smile! I've went back and read through this entire post. I cant see my statements becoming wishy-washy and people continued to argue and make snide remarks. It happens when people are attacked. I can take constructive critisim, there is a difference.

Like I said before, I do appreciate all that gave me CONSTRUCTIVE crtitism. Considering I haven't even MADE ANY CUPCAKES TO "SELL" TO ANYONE YET..all of this was a BIG waste of breath icon_smile.gif
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post #27 of 36
I'm the "rude" one. You are still on here talking away your self admitted illegal "Business". I am just giving your words right back to you.

Countrycaker did not side with you. She tried to explain the law too. You just won't listen. Again, it is rude of you to so blatantly flaunt your "new cupcake business" in our faces, talk about profits and wholesale supplies, misconstrue everyones' words, and be a very poor example to all of the bakers out there wishing to become legal.

With your blatant disrespect of the law, you are very likely to tick off the wrong person in your area and get turned in. I'm sure you ramble on and on about your "new business" in person as you have on here. No one wants to hear about people who evade the law and don't need to keep tax records. Talk about that too much in public and you will get turned into the IRS also. They would love to hear your new ideas about keeping records and paying taxes. Good luck with them.
post #28 of 36

Plenty of people start out doing their cupcake businesses from their homes illegally. So some of you leave the girl alone. I know a woman with a successful bakery that did it under the table for three years in Boston and sold to the Dominican Community. She managed to save enough money to buy a bakery right out. So, if you want to start out that way, do it. Just be careful and only sell to your friends and friends of friends. Don't try to sell it on Facebook or anything else. We set up our businesses because that is what we want. We want to do this for a living and not for a bit of side cash. I think you should sell them for 2 dollars a cupcake. The girl I started with was doing that and making good money.

post #29 of 36

Plenty of people start out doing their cupcake businesses from their homes illegally. So some of you leave the girl alone. I know a woman with a successful bakery that did it under the table for three years in Boston and sold to the Dominican Community. She managed to save enough money to buy a bakery right out. So, if you want to start out that way, do it. Just be careful and only sell to your friends and friends of friends. Don't try to sell it on Facebook or anything else. We set up our businesses because that is what we want. We want to do this for a living and not for a bit of side cash. I think you should sell them for 2 dollars a cupcake. The girl I started with was doing that and making good money.

post #30 of 36
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Originally Posted by Jenniferfrance View Post

Plenty of people start out doing their cupcake businesses from their homes illegally.
That doesn't make it right.
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