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post #46 of 49
jschilt1, koryAk is right. Don't sign anything until you have at least a plumber who knows the code to give you an estimate. A commercial kitchen from scratch can be upwards of $100,000. We already had the space with all approved surfaces. My husband's second occupation is a builder/developer so we got to bypass the architectural sign-off and periodic engineering inspections. We could pull all of our own permits. We ended up doing the work ourselves for about $25,000, after our estimates topped $50,000. Just to run an additional 220 line was quoted $5000.00. We did it ourselves and the cable alone was $600.00.

My point is, as koryAK said, if you aren't in a kitchen space already, the first thing you have to do is jackhammer the floor for drains. Then the extensive wiring and plumbing requirements to bring it to code. This alone will be about $50,000 in raw space. In my small town, plumbers, etc., are getting $80.00 per hour. You can't do it yourself unless you have a commercial contractors license.
post #47 of 49
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Thanks everyone! I haven't signed any lease yet, actually found a different place than the one I mentioned in my first post, this one is a little smaller but I think is more the size I would need, it runs 300/mo, it does have a back part which has an old mop sink, this back part already has a wall but only problem is the bathroom is back there too, and I know you can't have people tracking through a commercial kitchen to use the bathroom, so I thought about putting up a half door to make it separate from the kitchen, if that makes sense, it's kinda hard to explain the setup without seeing it. The Health inspector is coming Monday to see if this place would even be an option for me, so maybe I will take some pics then and show you guys.

Besides the heath inspector would I need to get anyone else involved to make sure this place will work? What about a building inspector? I am just renting not buying????
post #48 of 49
You need to get involved with a master plumber and an electrician as well, I would bring the plumber first, because that is going to determine whether or not you want to jack hammer the floors up to put in plumbing. Electric is a major expense as well, but I think the plumbing might be a lot more in a space like that. A good licensed master plumber can tell you if the health department will approve the space, there is no need for him to come out there yet,
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post #49 of 49
With your completed application you will be advised as to what is next. In my area, there is a $250.00 engineering permit which has a page for each department to be signed off on. For example, planning commission, architectural company approved plan, and the engineering inspections of all of your mechanical systems. Permits for construction will be pulled by various contractors, and the engineering dept will make surprise inspections during construction. Any licensed plumber, HVAC, electrician should be familiar with the local health dept requirements. If they aren't, get someone else. Be sure to get your construction estimates BEFORE you sign your lease, as some locations may be cost prohibitive and another with slightly higher rent may prove to have less construction costs. And these estimates can double during construction. Every one of mine did. There was a thread recently that covered this. The consensus was double the estimate cost and double the time for completion. If there are any vacant food establishments, the construction savings alone are worth taking a look.
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