I Will Never Ever Freeze Cake Again....................

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bakingatthebeach Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 2:25am
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A little OT, but freezing gurus: do you tell the client that the cake was frozen. I know that a lot of brides freeze their leftover cake for their one-year anniversary. Do you warn them that the cake has already been frozen?

Around here, frozen = a bad thing. People equate it with not being fresh. I'm not in business, but I have often wondered how those who freeze handle a situation where someone wants to freeze leftovers.




I read a thread where Indydebi asks her clients if they can tell which ones were the frozen samples and which ones were the recently baked samples during her tastings and alot of times the frozen ones were the ones they thought were the recently baked items! I keep the left over cake from leveling in my freezer for cake pops. I pull it out, use some and put what I dont use back in the freezer, still cant tell the difference in the taste, and neither can my coworkers, they devour them!

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motherofgrace Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 2:29am
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A little OT, but freezing gurus: do you tell the client that the cake was frozen. I know that a lot of brides freeze their leftover cake for their one-year anniversary. Do you warn them that the cake has already been frozen?

Around here, frozen = a bad thing. People equate it with not being fresh. I'm not in business, but I have often wondered how those who freeze handle a situation where someone wants to freeze leftovers.



I read a thread where Indydebi asks her clients if they can tell which ones were the frozen samples and which ones were the recently baked samples during her tastings and alot of times the frozen ones were the ones they thought were the recently baked items! I keep the left over cake from leveling in my freezer for cake pops. I pull it out, use some and put what I dont use back in the freezer, still cant tell the difference in the taste, and neither can my coworkers, they devour them!




Exactly, its not like refreezing meat. My top seller is my cake pops, where the cake gets frozen, Then made into the centres, then refrozen.... then sold, and my customers freeze them AGAIN. And I still make a hefty penny off of them

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mcaulir Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 3:24am
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I can't imagine why someone would ask if the cake had been frozen. It would certainly never occur to me to ask, as long as it was thawed before I ate it.

Freezing twice isn't a problem. It's a problem for meat, not for cake.

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vtcake Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 3:56am
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I have frozen cakes, the first time was starting 2 weeks before my sister's wedding and boy was I nervous. The cakes were key lime from scratch, and they all came out moist and just wonderful.

One thing I've learned to do is freeze them right on something solid. I try to freeze right onto the separator plate that I'll be using, and this keeps my cakes from bending before freezing.

Sorry you had a problem.

I always wrap several times each way w/plastic wrap, then foil, then into 2 plastic store bags for good measure. A pain to unwrap, but worth it.

Just took one out of the freezer that I'd had extra at Christmas time, and it was just as good as if it was just baked.

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JaeRodriguez Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 4:03am
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I would like to add in that I think the freezer changes the texture of my cakes and I like what it does!

I also like to tell people the story about Indy's asking brides to pick out which cakes (at her tasting) are fresh, and they almost always pick the frozen ones!

Maybe I will do my own experiment and see what people think! :]

Madge- I have frozen cakes longer then 3 weeks and haven't had that problem, I have no clue what would have made that happen!

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tsal Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 3:25pm
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You can refreeze cake?! So I can keep the freezing secret?! This could change my life.... icon_smile.gif

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costumeczar Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 3:28pm
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I can't imagine why someone would ask if the cake had been frozen. It would certainly never occur to me to ask, as long as it was thawed before I ate it.

Freezing twice isn't a problem. It's a problem for meat, not for cake.




I don't freeze anything either.

I've had people ask if I freeze cakes because there are people around here who deliver entire wedding cakes frozen, then they don't thaw in time to cut them. I've heard a bunch of horror stories from venues who went to cut the cake and it wouldn't cut because it was still frozen inside. I have no idea how long you'd have to have a cake in the freezer to have that happen, but it would be a while!

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LindaF144a Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 4:32pm
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I can't imagine why someone would ask if the cake had been frozen. It would certainly never occur to me to ask, as long as it was thawed before I ate it.

Freezing twice isn't a problem. It's a problem for meat, not for cake.



I don't freeze anything either.

I've had people ask if I freeze cakes because there are people around here who deliver entire wedding cakes frozen, then they don't thaw in time to cut them. I've heard a bunch of horror stories from venues who went to cut the cake and it wouldn't cut because it was still frozen inside. I have no idea how long you'd have to have a cake in the freezer to have that happen, but it would be a while!




The cakery I used to work at did the same thing. They did it because it would help to deliver it and nit have problems. It made me wonder how well it worked at the other end.

I would NOT freeze a cake like this. This is not freezing a cake to lock in moisture. This is making the cake easy to transport. I would not and have not in the past freeze a cake this way.

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jenscreativity Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 4:48pm
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I freeze my cakes sometimes, but only for a week at the most, and they are just as good and moist! I cool mine completely, wrap them in parchment paper, and put in freezer bag. Then I do NOT work with cake until I completely thaw out cake on counter to room temp. I never have problems..It seems like that maybe it's the recipe OR the way it was wrapped.

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tigachu Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 5:26pm
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I have never frozen cake before but I have always wanted to give it a try. I am a bit confused, are you supposed to thaw the cake while still wrapped or do you unwrap then thaw to prevent sticky tops icon_confused.gif ? Also, are there particular traits in a recipe that would not make it a good candidate for freezing? If this helps/or even matters at all, my recipes would be from scratch, using either butter or oil.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. I am so excited to try this!! icon_lol.gif

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jenscreativity Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 5:41pm
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I use scratch recipes also, but have no problem. I thaw IN bags, wrapped. It keeps the moisture in cake vs air getting to it to start drying out cake prior to decorating. Make sure cake is completely thawed though.

It really takes time off your hands doing this technique b/c you have the cakes made already! Plus, I sometimes have extra batter,,,so I use that to make a small size cake like a smash cake, maybe needed anytime soon. Then that cake is started. OR cupcakes.!!

Happy Freezing!

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simplysouthern Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 5:47pm
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I have never frozen cake before but I have always wanted to give it a try. I am a bit confused, are you supposed to thaw the cake while still wrapped or do you unwrap then thaw to prevent sticky tops icon_confused.gif ? Also, are there particular traits in a recipe that would not make it a good candidate for freezing? If this helps/or even matters at all, my recipes would be from scratch, using either butter or oil.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. I am so excited to try this!! icon_lol.gif




I leave mine covered/wrapped when thawing. I think you're going find aomw serious moisture loss if you unwrapped to avoid sticky tops, which I do get but is rather take a little off the top and have a moist cake icon_smile.gif HTH

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tigachu Posted 15 Jan 2011 , 5:58pm
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Thank you so much for all of your help! I am waiting for DD to take her nap so I can try this out icon_cool.gif

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madgeowens Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 9:04am
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The only good thing I will say about freezing a cake is it was really nice frosting it....was easier than normal.......but it was dried out...maybe it was too long......and dont feel insulted because I dont like this idea, lol I mean really....if you disagree in here some people go nuts.....as I said I will never freeze cake again..I prefer "fresh"

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motherofgrace Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 9:18am
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And that there is going to start an argument.

"fresh" what C***

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LindaF144a Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 4:17pm
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A cake frozen for 24 - 48 hours, like I do, is fresh.

3 weeks, like you did, is not fresh.

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aligotmatt Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 4:55pm
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I way overbooked myself last year. I'm a home baker, and I had 3 - 300 serving weddings. It's just not reasonable. 3 weeks before the weddings I was starting to get into panic mode, then someone from my church, not at all knowing my cake situation, said they were getting rid of their 5 foot tall upright freezer and wanted to know if I knew anyone who needed or wanted it. So I took it. And I started baking my cakes. I baked, torted and filled, put on their cardboard and wrapped wrapped wrapped. labeled. and froze every single serving of cake.

I pulled the cakes out let them defrost still wrapped, with a weight on top. then unwrapped them, trimmed, crumbcoated, iced, decorated...

I attended one of the weddings and was sitting at my table of strangers and the mother of the bride came up to tell me how beautiful the cake was. Then this girl at the table started chatting me up about the cake, she was a food blogger, reviewer... so the cake was served and she went on and on about how good it was and how she knew it was fresh, that she could tell the difference between a frozen and fresh cake, and this was definitely fresh... smile and nod. smile and nod.

I don't make a habit of freezing, but if I have to, I'm not worried about it.

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Mama_Mias_Cakes Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 5:04pm
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Yes well to each their own..........my cakes are very very moist when fresh.....so I will not freeze ever again.I thought I would try it, but we like our cakes moist here.......


If it is suppose to make your cakes more moist then I suppose those who are having dry issues should try freezing. Good luck icon_smile.gif





Same here with my cakes. I have tried freezing as well both warm and completely cooled. IMHO there is absolutely no difference in moistness and taste as not frozen, that is my own experience. So I don't freeze if I don't have to.

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cheatize Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 5:30pm
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Maybe something didn't go perfectly. Maybe it wasn't wrapped well enough, maybe it was frozen for too long (though I doubt it), or maybe that freezer hates cake (mine hates bread). It didn't work for dear ol' Madge this time. Perhaps she'll try again in the future, perhaps not.

It's all good. It's cake. Now let's go eat some scraps and get our sugar high for the day. icon_biggrin.gif

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luddroth Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 6:11pm
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I think the controversy here is the "never" try again pledge since it didn't work well the first time. If I only did the things that worked perfectly the first time I tried them, I wouldn't ever do much. If memory serves, I think the first cake I ever tried to bake, when I was about 10 years old, was a disaster. I'm really glad I tried again....

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madgeowens Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 6:13pm
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perhaps...........but I highly doubt it

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cathyscakes Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 7:09pm
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To the original poster, I don't think people were disagreeing with you so much, just trying to figure out why your cake was dry. I find that when I freeze cakes they are almost too moist, so I have the other problem. Maybe its your freezer, some dry things out too much. We are not saying you are wrong, its just that freezing doesn't usually dry things out, if done for a short time. Just trying to figure it out. I know you don't want to do it again, which is fine, I just know I couldn't give up the luxury. I have had too many cakes stick, split, some unforseen problem, I am comforted by the fact that the cakes are baked perfectly and in the freezer. I would definitely not do it if they were dry, so this has me a little puzzled. I don't do scratch cakes so am not sure how they would react in the freezer.

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Loucinda Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 8:22pm
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I think this is like any other passionate subject about cakes, no way is right or wrong - just do what works best for you!

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Karen421 Posted 16 Jan 2011 , 8:41pm
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I so agree Loucinda, if something works for you, stay with it! Madge, if freezing did not work, forget what everyone else thinks, do what is best for you. "If it isn't broke - don't fix it" thumbs_up.gificon_biggrin.gif

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madgeowens Posted 17 Jan 2011 , 3:02am
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Thats kinda what my husband says.....he said everything I do is perfect so why did I think I needed to do somethng else haha......your right of course....which is why I had said to each his own......thanks...I just think if something works well we say so in here and I thought I should say what I did and how it was no good....so now people can decide for themselves..thanks Karen and Loucinda

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PrivateNameHere Posted 17 Jan 2011 , 1:20pm
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Okay I just have to say that it NEVER would have occurred to me that the "Never dance again" comment would offend any one unless Sweetheart knew OP's entire life's backstory. Pretty certain she meant no offense. OP's reply to her was weird. Am I the only one that saw that?

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ChilliPepper Posted 17 Jan 2011 , 1:32pm
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I never freeze cakes. If my client wanted a frozen cake they would and could order from the local grocery stores. JMHO




I always had trouble torting my cakes as they are so soft and moist. I now freeze and tort and coat them while still frozen. The coating keeps the moisture in and I am complimented non-stop by customers who come back time and time again. Indeed I have one family who have 15 cakes on order for this year!

CP

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heyjules Posted 18 Jan 2011 , 2:43pm
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I agree that it's getting to the point where people are looking for offence where none is meant. It is a subject where people are just going to believe what they want to. I personally tried it myself. I made two cakes, left one out overnight and put the other in the freezer. I had my husband cut and serve them to see if I could tell the difference and I didn't see one...one didn't taste better for being put in the freezer, and one wasn't better for not being frozen. I say go with whatever works for you, but freezing a cake certainly doesn't dry it out...when it's done properly. If it was dry, it was probably the cake itself, not the freezing.

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jenscreativity Posted 18 Jan 2011 , 3:15pm
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No offense madge, but it sounds like you made up your mind about not freezing cakes ever again, at the beginning of all of these conversations, and that were were sticking with that decision,

but why bother posting this, if that is the case like it didn't really matter what people stated since your mind was already made up/ I'm not trying to start anything, but after reading all of this,,it seems that way and I'm just trying to understand is all. Any topic that is brought up, people ARE going to comment because they think you may want to hear their opionions,,that is all I'm trying to say.

I think you should stick with your guns and do what's best for you and what your final decision was in the first place..That is the best way to go. Best of luck to you icon_smile.gif

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vtcake Posted 18 Jan 2011 , 10:09pm
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I thought this debate went on so long not because people (inc. me) are trying to change the OP's mind, but rather in defense of ourselves because of her tone which I took to imply that those of us who freeze cakes aren't as concerned with the quality of our products as she is.

Don't insult others' integrity and you won't get such arguments. IMHO.

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