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Puppies aren't the only ones not to be trusted!

post #1 of 33
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Adult dogs who have never touched a cake before can mess up your cakes, too!

I am posting this not as the cake-maker but, as the bride icon_wink.gif (though it was a long time ago now, I am just new to the forum!)

My best friend is a cake artist and made many cakes over the years. She had never had a problem making the cakes the day before and leaving them on her dining room table. Her dog was well trained, knew better than to go anywhere near the table top and had never gotten into a cake before - we're talking hundreds of cakes.

Of course, she was doing my wedding cake - she was also a bridesmaid and her two girls were jr. bridesmaid and flower girl (in retrospect, I *may* have put a little too much on her icon_eek.gif). My wedding cake was a three tier cascade of vanilla, chocolate, and carrot with white fondant draped and piped to look like an embroidered handkerchief.

She finished the cake the night before, left it on the table as per usual.

Woke up the morning of the wedding to a scene that would make you want to run away with the circus. The dog had consumed almost the entire cake - every layer of the cake was ruined, and to add insult to injury, it made the dog sick and there was cakey dog puke piles EVERYWHERE.

My wonderful friend.. she was a champion, though, to this day I have no idea how she did it. She made a new cake. She showed up to the wedding looking amazing with her two amazingly beautiful daughters in tow as well.

Admittedly.. the cake was um.. slightly underdone. icon_lol.gif The middle was a little... soggy, as I recall. But it LOOKED fantastic and I still don't know how she managed it. She's my superhero! She didn't tell me until she had already made a new one, or I would have told her not to bother and just stop by the grocery store or something icon_lol.gif

Anyway just thought I would share.. no matter how well behaved your dog is, no matter how well you have him/her trained. Sometimes temptation just might get the better of them.. you might consider putting the cake behind a closed door for those high-profile, time sensitive cakes icon_wink.gif
post #2 of 33
I know not many people might give it a second's thought as we are mostly a pet loving society, but I personally have an issue buying a cake (or any food for that matter) from anyone who prepares it in an environment that has indoor pets roaming about, not to mention little kids who might be poking their grubby fingers into cakes and frosting, licking and poking again. Sorry if that offends anyone with pets and kids icon_redface.gif , it is just how I feel. I've just discovered this forum and it is totally addictive!! I think it is good that in the US, there is such strict regulations against home bakers setting up shop in their home kitchens. I think the rules are much more relaxed in Australia (which is where I'm from) and I believe many 'baking from home' bakers got the 'ok' from councils and the like to set up a cake decorating business from their home kitchens. It is unfortunate though that nothing much seems to be done to regulate hygiene during the preparation of cakes for sale. I know so many have pets in the house and are mums with young children and the thought of pet hair and saliva slicked fingers in cakes meant for customers gives me the shudders thumbsdown.gif .
post #3 of 33
I learned that this also applies to squirrels. I took a cake to cool on the patio once....ONCE. Placed it on my picnic table, went to do some laundry and house cleaning and when I came back, three of the little stinkers were having their own party on the patio with MY CAKE! Wound up tossing, rebaking and from then on, the cakes stay in the house. It was just a family dinner cake, so having it cool outside wasn't an issue.

But yeah, animals whether indoor or out, cannot be trusted around food of any kind.
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post #4 of 33
Just a story about little fingers. When my grandson was 2 1/2 he knew better then to touch any cakes I made. I only ever make for family and friends. I found some finger lines in icing of a cake I had made and in front of the cake I confronted him on it. Right there in front of me he runs his finger in the icing again and say, Stop that finger ,my finger won't stop that. I couldn't help but laugh so that didn't help me scold him for it. This just bought back a memory of that and not being able to trust little ones and pets no matter what their taught.
post #5 of 33
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Originally Posted by BK13

I know not many people might give it a second's thought as we are mostly a pet loving society, but I personally have an issue buying a cake (or any food for that matter) from anyone who prepares it in an environment that has indoor pets roaming about, not to mention little kids who might be poking their grubby fingers into cakes and frosting, licking and poking again. Sorry if that offends anyone with pets and kids icon_redface.gif , it is just how I feel. I've just discovered this forum and it is totally addictive!! I think it is good that in the US, there is such strict regulations against home bakers setting up shop in their home kitchens. I think the rules are much more relaxed in Australia (which is where I'm from) and I believe many 'baking from home' bakers got the 'ok' from councils and the like to set up a cake decorating business from their home kitchens. It is unfortunate though that nothing much seems to be done to regulate hygiene during the preparation of cakes for sale. I know so many have pets in the house and are mums with young children and the thought of pet hair and saliva slicked fingers in cakes meant for customers gives me the shudders thumbsdown.gif .



Well I have four kids and a licensed cake business.

HOWEVER:

I keep a gate up in the kitchen doorway, and I have locks on my cake refrigerators. And I never let my kids "help" with anything that is for someone outside of the family.
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Good on you for being hygiene conscious, always good to know they are out there. I have a few friends (most of whom are normal housewives and mums) who will dip their fingers into food and lick to 'taste' or feed and pet their dogs/cats while preparing food which is meant to be served to guests when they are having dinner parties icon_eek.gif. I know they don't think there is anything wrong in doing that, just their normal day to day habits icon_razz.gif . Love them lots but strange that I don't normally have much of an appetite when being served food at these homes icon_biggrin.gif .

I also have a baker friend who is licensed to sell home baked goods. She has 2 long haired dogs that have free run of the house, and a cat that has a tendency to jump onto the dining table and kitchen bench. Love her lots too but I don't purchase any baked goodies from her icon_redface.gif.

Not trying to start any sort of argument here about home bakers and hygiene, but perhaps putting out there a buyer's perspective to make home bakers aware that what they see as norm in their kitchen may not be all that appetising to an outsider, is all..... Peace to all.......
post #7 of 33
I have a licensed business as well. My 2 kids never "help" nor do they come anywhere in contact with my cakes. When I'm working they know they are not to be anywhere near my space. My kitchen is sanitized/cleaner then most storefront bakeries that I've been in! In my state, you are not allowed to run a home baking facility with ANY roaming animals.
post #8 of 33
I am not offended. I have two cocker spaniels that live indoors and you could eat off of my floors.
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Originally Posted by tarheelgirl

In my state, you are not allowed to run a home baking facility with ANY roaming animals.


That is good to know. Wish they will reinforce that rule here! But does the health department do surprise checks every now and then? Just thinking that maybe someone can get their kitchen licensed, then after a time, they acquire a pet for their kids or something, ya know LoL icon_lol.gif .
post #10 of 33
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Originally Posted by Prill

I am not offended. I have two cocker spaniels that live indoors and you could eat off of my floors.


icon_biggrin.gif I believe you prill, but I'd still say thanks but no thanks LOL. I love dogs (more so than cats icon_wink.gif ) but still don't believe they have any place inside my house, or on my sofa or worse still, in my bed. Oops, waiting for the stones that are gonna be aimed at me now from pet lovers tapedshut.gificon_biggrin.gif .
post #11 of 33
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But does the health department do surprise checks every now and then?



They can and will!
post #12 of 33
Another thought ,my husbands uncle worked for the board of health for 54 years. He told me about a man that was selling cakes out of his home and he had 3 dogs. He had been turned in couple of times for pet hair in the cakes. He said the last time he went to check the man on this issue the man went to making pet treats instead of cakes because of fines he had to pay. No home baking in Indiana.
post #13 of 33
Doesn't really matter what you say to prove that you have a clean kitchen and 110% impecible hygiene practice while baking cakes with pets and / or kids in your house... BK13 is just one of those people that is going to say whatever is needed to make thier point and stir the pot.

But let's be real... no matter where you go... restaurants, fast food, friends houses... you can never guarantee there is no 'extras' in your food. The behind the scenes people not wearing hair nets, beard nets, not washing after the bathroom, coming in to work sick, coughing, sneezing, tasting.

So to those of you that go above and beyond to be concious of what goes in your cakes, I applaud you.
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post #14 of 33
In our state home baking is legal but the licensing laws say no pets in the home, and no children in the kitchen during food prep for customers. I can't always keep my kids totally OUT but they are not allowed to be anywhere near my workspace. They can do what they have to do and leave again.
post #15 of 33
Kitagirl - for some reason that popped a question into my head... what age to they consider a kid? Is it like 0-12? Just curious, that's interesting to me.
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