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post #1 of 26
12/7/10 at 7:29am
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Let me get to the chase, I have a bride, that I intend on doing a cake tasting this coming Monday and offered to bring the cake to her house, where she is more comfortable.

She responded by saying that she wants it to be at the kitchen where I bake, so she can see the kitchen I bake in. Now, I knew this day would come. However, the only day she can do cake tastings is on a Monday, a school night, my kitchen would be a distaster due to dinner, and general mess on a school night. When I bake, it's typically after the kids have gone to bed, have wiped everything down, or on the weekend, and they are either on playdates, or taking naps.

I simply do not want her walking into my house when my kids are here, and at dinner time. Am I being too protective? I don't have a problem in the world with her seeing my kitchen, I understand her wanting to make sure it's a safe and clean environment. Just not with my kids here.

So what do I say?


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post #2 of 26
12/7/10 at 7:36am
Tell her you are not available to do tastings in your kitchen during family hours....that is why you suggested doing it at another location. (Ie her home) OR she needs to reschedule at a time that is mutually agreed upon, so that you can get kids out of the house for an hour.

If she isn't comfortable with that, you don't want her as a client. She CAN make more time for her cake consultation if she WANTS to. IMO.
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post #3 of 26
12/7/10 at 7:42am
I don't know what your family situation, but I would just have my husband or mom take the kids out to dinner so that you have a clean, empty house.
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post #4 of 26
12/7/10 at 7:50am
I'm not in florida, but from what i have read on here it's illegal to sell cakes from your home kitchen. Who knows maybe it's a health inspector looking to find out where you actually bake.
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post #5 of 26
12/7/10 at 7:53am
Sounds like she's setting you up to bust you. Aren't home-based food businesses not allowed in Florida?
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post #6 of 26
12/7/10 at 8:29am
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Originally Posted by leily

I'm not in florida, but from what i have read on here it's illegal to sell cakes from your home kitchen. Who knows maybe it's a health inspector looking to find out where you actually bake.



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post #7 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by leily

I'm not in florida, but from what i have read on here it's illegal to sell cakes from your home kitchen.



There are many threads on here that state this. Have they adopted cottage laws down there now?

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post #8 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:15am
If you don't have a licensed commercial kitchen according to FL state law, you need to stop accepting paid orders ASAP until you get legal.
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post #9 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:17am
cancel her order, tell her your booked. This sounds odd to me. or ask her for more detailed wedding information and see how she acts. If she is a snotty bride you dont want her business anyway. I dont like doing wedding cakes just for this very reason. Bride zillas
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post #10 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:21am
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This sounds odd to me.


Not to me. If I was aware of state laws regarding home bakeries and knew that home bakeries are typically not inspected by the dept of health, I would want to make sure the kitchen was clean before I ordered food made in said kitchen. I'm sure OP maintains a clean baking environment, but the customer just has her word on that.
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post #11 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:29am
ok, for one yes I agree she probly wants to make sure the kitchen is clean, but if i were the bride, and i was ordering the cake, if i was going to go to all that trouble to visit the kitchen id just order from a real storefront bakery instead.

and PS i used to be health inspector, and believe me alot of kitchens are way cleaner than some bakeries and places i inspected! regardless if there legal or not.

Can we stop hollering at our fellow cakers that are just trying to start out doing what they love! just because they dont have enough money to be legal yet. goodness
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post #12 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by shannycakers

ok, for one yes I agree she probly wants to make sure the kitchen is clean, but if i were the bride, and i was ordering the cake, if i was going to go to all that trouble to visit the kitchen id just order from a real storefront bakery instead.


That's what most people would do, but this bride might be looking for a deal by going with an unlicensed bakery.

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and PS i used to be health inspector, and believe me alot of kitchens are way cleaner than some bakeries and places i inspected! regardless if there legal or not.


That's great, but when licensed kitchens are not clean, the health inspector makes sure they are up to code. That's the whole reason for inspection laws, to make sure customers don't have to personally inspect each food production facility.

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Can we stop hollering at our fellow cakers that are just trying to start out doing what they love!


No one is hollering, we are just making OP aware that she should get legal ASAP and stop accepting paid orders for her own protection. If she doesn't have enough money to operate legally, she is perfectly free to continue making cakes, but she should not be selling those cakes or running a business.
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post #13 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:39am
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Can we stop hollering at our fellow cakers that are just trying to start out doing what they love! just because they dont have enough money to be legal yet. goodness



I'm sorry if you took my comment the wrong way. I was just stating what I knew from reading lots of threads here and on other forums over the years, and asking if things had changed down there. I was without a computer for several months, and inquired as to whether they had adopted cottage laws there. I remember there being several petitions going around about it for different states, but since none of them applied to me, I didn't bother to pay much attention I got my new computer.

This is one of those subjects that always brings out the beasts in people. I wish that those who post such questions would remember to not tell us where they are, so sensitivity to the subject would not rear it's ugly head.

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post #14 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:41am
I am sure your aware that its very cheap to start a business in some areas and very expensive in others. AND in order to start a business you need to get started some how, so i doubt any caker is going to put all the time, money and effort into making cakes , try new designs, stacked cakes and all for anyone and everyone for no cost at all, till her work is good enough for a real business. Its just not logical, everyone starts somewhere. In my area it is extremely hard to start a business without a bank loan. And who knows if they even want to start a business until they try things out and see if its worthwhile.

So in your mind, next time your at a dinner party and they ask for a contribution toward the food, you should tell them they need to start a business asap, instead, otherwise everythign is free..
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post #15 of 26
12/7/10 at 9:43am
Theresaicon_smile.gif I understand where your coming from. My post was actually meant to others who were more direct. We are all fellow cakers, and should always remember that, we are all up till 3 in the morning caking, lol icon_smile.gif regardless of where it is..
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