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post #47 of 97
11/29/10 at 8:51am
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I don't know what Cake central programming does, but I did not just join today. I updated my profile a maybe 30 minutes ago. And even if I joined today, I can't be a valid person?
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Hmmm... I must agree though. We have had some trolls here.
And it's too obvious when the "Joined Date" happens to be today's date. Boo
Cake Central should come up with something as in members can not re-regsiter a new account from the same IP address. (If they haven't done so already).
Hmmm... I must agree though. We have had some trolls here.
And it's too obvious when the "Joined Date" happens to be today's date. Boo
Cake Central should come up with something as in members can not re-regsiter a new account from the same IP address. (If they haven't done so already).
I don't know what Cake central programming does, but I did not just join today. I updated my profile a maybe 30 minutes ago. And even if I joined today, I can't be a valid person?
Oh boy. I was not referring directly to you.
And there have been trolls on here.
Booyah!
Booyah!
post #48 of 97
11/29/10 at 9:17am
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Cake Central should come up with something as in members can not re-regsiter a new account from the same IP address. (If they haven't done so already).
Cake Central should come up with something as in members can not re-regsiter a new account from the same IP address. (If they haven't done so already).
I'm not suggesting the poster here is a troll, and in fact I looked at her site and her cakes are beautiful. I'd be very proud to have one of her cakes.
Having said that first, an IP address is so easy to change. Change your computer, new IP address. Change your modem, new IP address. There are so many different ways your IP changes. It's a pain too because all my saved passwords have to be resaved when it happens, and when you don't remember them, UGH.
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
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Sorry your holiday weekend was a little marred by this, but its great that you shared your story. So many lessons in this one for all!
I'll bet you've learned .....
- No contract .... no order on the books.
- No money in advance .... no turning the oven on.
- No contact from client ..... no chasing them down to see if they will "let you" make their cake at the last minute.
- No contact from client .... send an email stating "Since I haven't heard from you to confirm your order, I am assuming you have made other arrangements. let me know if I can be of help in the future."
- No "feel good" feeling about the order .... no taking the order.

Sorry your holiday weekend was a little marred by this, but its great that you shared your story. So many lessons in this one for all!
I'll bet you've learned .....
- No contract .... no order on the books.
- No money in advance .... no turning the oven on.
- No contact from client ..... no chasing them down to see if they will "let you" make their cake at the last minute.
- No contact from client .... send an email stating "Since I haven't heard from you to confirm your order, I am assuming you have made other arrangements. let me know if I can be of help in the future."
- No "feel good" feeling about the order .... no taking the order.
Btw, just want to say So Helpful! I'm glad you broke it down. Thanks!
post #50 of 97
11/29/10 at 9:40am
kookycutter, I have to say. I just saw your all green dessert table, and it's incredible. I love the concept and the execution of it.
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Thanks so much. It also reminds me to think of all the successful orders and the many grateful clients I have had and those who want to work with me even now instead of dwelling on this fiasco.
One of my cakes even collapsed with a client and she still ordered another cake from me!
One of my cakes even collapsed with a client and she still ordered another cake from me!
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11/29/10 at 10:14am
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Oh my. What a drama- my toes curled just reading it, and not in a good way.
We've all been there, against our better judgement. I can think of so many times I went above and beyond only to be burned. Truth is, you train your customers. If they are rude, inconsiderate and flaky, you need to look at yourself.
I think you've recognized that this is mostly your fault. For all the reasons already posted, and for not setting boundaries- "I know you would like to speak on the phone, but I need everything in writing, so email is the best way to make contact, plus I have several orders I am completing. If you are uncomfortable with this, I understand, and best wishes in your search."
"I understand you are upset that things are not up to your expectations, but with the rush order and no signed contract until the last minute, this is what I can produce for you. You may enjoy the cake, or drop the cake off and receive a refund, those are your options. Which would you prefer?"
If someone is being petty, you can acknowledge their needs while still setting appropriate boundaries.
Another thought (one I am currently instating)- no orders under a certain amount of money for cakes around the holidays!!! If you take orders for a day or two after a holiday, you will be working on that holiday! Not worth it.
All easier said than done, I'm afraid, and my heart goes out to you and your now worn-out, upset and drained self.
We've all been there, against our better judgement. I can think of so many times I went above and beyond only to be burned. Truth is, you train your customers. If they are rude, inconsiderate and flaky, you need to look at yourself.
I think you've recognized that this is mostly your fault. For all the reasons already posted, and for not setting boundaries- "I know you would like to speak on the phone, but I need everything in writing, so email is the best way to make contact, plus I have several orders I am completing. If you are uncomfortable with this, I understand, and best wishes in your search."
"I understand you are upset that things are not up to your expectations, but with the rush order and no signed contract until the last minute, this is what I can produce for you. You may enjoy the cake, or drop the cake off and receive a refund, those are your options. Which would you prefer?"
If someone is being petty, you can acknowledge their needs while still setting appropriate boundaries.
Another thought (one I am currently instating)- no orders under a certain amount of money for cakes around the holidays!!! If you take orders for a day or two after a holiday, you will be working on that holiday! Not worth it.
All easier said than done, I'm afraid, and my heart goes out to you and your now worn-out, upset and drained self.
life is short, get a cakesafe.
life is short, get a cakesafe.
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11/29/10 at 10:28am
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Another thought (one I am currently instating)- no orders under a certain amount of money for cakes around the holidays!!! If you take orders for a day or two after a holiday, you will be working on that holiday! Not worth it.
Another thought (one I am currently instating)- no orders under a certain amount of money for cakes around the holidays!!! If you take orders for a day or two after a holiday, you will be working on that holiday! Not worth it.
I know a caterer who put right on his website "No weddings under 200 guests during May - August."
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11/29/10 at 12:02pm
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Fasten your seatbelts--Kooky is buoyed by another anchorless poster.
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Wow, what a way to make a person feel welcome and like they can vent. I know I would NEVER post my business site on here or anything else that can identify me, cause I may want to come here to vent about a customer, but would not want that to some how come back and haunt me. I thought this was a palce of support, but I guess you have to prove yourself to others first. How nice of you all.
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This is your first post, you joined Saturday and no pictures or website or anything? Are you for real? Ok now I'm judging. We often have this type of post that can turn out to be untrue--just giving you an opportunity to fully identify yourself.
When I got on the cake boards, my friend Kelley made me get my stuff online to anchor me as a for real person. How's about it, Kooky? You state you have a website--where is it?
Please pardon my candor and forgive my skepticism, we've been down this path so many times--just wanting to give Kooky a fair chance.
This is your first post, you joined Saturday and no pictures or website or anything? Are you for real? Ok now I'm judging. We often have this type of post that can turn out to be untrue--just giving you an opportunity to fully identify yourself.
When I got on the cake boards, my friend Kelley made me get my stuff online to anchor me as a for real person. How's about it, Kooky? You state you have a website--where is it?
Please pardon my candor and forgive my skepticism, we've been down this path so many times--just wanting to give Kooky a fair chance.
Wow, what a way to make a person feel welcome and like they can vent. I know I would NEVER post my business site on here or anything else that can identify me, cause I may want to come here to vent about a customer, but would not want that to some how come back and haunt me. I thought this was a palce of support, but I guess you have to prove yourself to others first. How nice of you all.
Fasten your seatbelts--Kooky is buoyed by another anchorless poster.
So I'm fake too, cause I thought the attacks were kind of unneccssary and gave the OP some support. What a beeyotch of an attitude.

And like someone else said venting on here has caused them problems in their local area. God forbid protecting our businesses is more important then trying to prove ourselves to K8 and the other doubters.
post #55 of 97
11/29/10 at 12:05pm
Part of me wonders, kookiecutter, if you aren't equally upset with yourself as you are the customer because you know you should have stopped the madness at so many different places along the way? Your heart was in the right place, and I have no doubt you did learn a lesson here.
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
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Part of me wonders, kookiecutter, if you aren't equally upset with yourself as you are the customer because you know you should have stopped the madness at so many different places along the way? Your heart was in the right place, and I have no doubt you did learn a lesson here.
Part of me wonders, kookiecutter, if you aren't equally upset with yourself as you are the customer because you know you should have stopped the madness at so many different places along the way? Your heart was in the right place, and I have no doubt you did learn a lesson here.
This is very true. I do blame myself. Occasionally, I go out of my way to be nice, but I have to always remember that I need to protect my interests first. I know there will be other missteps along the way. I do see this as a learning experience (including not working for a project that's 2 days after a holiday. Just turned down a project for the 26th of December.
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11/29/10 at 12:35pm
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This is your first post, you joined Saturday and no pictures or website or anything? Are you for real? Ok now I'm judging. We often have this type of post that can turn out to be untrue--just giving you an opportunity to fully identify yourself.
When I got on the cake boards, my friend Kelley made me get my stuff online to anchor me as a for real person. How's about it, Kooky? You state you have a website--where is it?
Please pardon my candor and forgive my skepticism, we've been down this path so many times--just wanting to give Kooky a fair chance.
This is your first post, you joined Saturday and no pictures or website or anything? Are you for real? Ok now I'm judging. We often have this type of post that can turn out to be untrue--just giving you an opportunity to fully identify yourself.
When I got on the cake boards, my friend Kelley made me get my stuff online to anchor me as a for real person. How's about it, Kooky? You state you have a website--where is it?
Please pardon my candor and forgive my skepticism, we've been down this path so many times--just wanting to give Kooky a fair chance.
Who are you, to speak to someone like that? There are many people without photos (myself included) for various reasons. One being rude *demands* for tutorials or just innappropriate comments in general. Why would you antangonize the OP?
oh gosh, I am looking at the cake and the cupcakes and they look really good. What a waste! The cupcakes also taste really good. oh well.
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11/29/10 at 1:05pm
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oh gosh, I am looking at the cake and the cupcakes and they look really good. What a waste! The cupcakes also taste really good. oh well.
oh gosh, I am looking at the cake and the cupcakes and they look really good. What a waste! The cupcakes also taste really good. oh well.
Live and learn...we've all done it, it happens. Don't beat yourself up too much.
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Wait...so when you left her house to go remake the order, did you take the money you had just returned to her back?
Housework makes you ugly.
It's marshmallow, not marshmellow! Aaargh, I have the strangest pet peeves!
It's marshmallow, not marshmellow! Aaargh, I have the strangest pet peeves!
Housework makes you ugly.
It's marshmallow, not marshmellow! Aaargh, I have the strangest pet peeves!
It's marshmallow, not marshmellow! Aaargh, I have the strangest pet peeves!
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