Hi,

Now here's my problem. I'm freaking out over. I made a Color Flow and a Royal Icing figure...ummm like you would do a buttercream tranfer. I know you guys know what I'm talking about, yr experts, what am I saying. OMG ok, I'm freaking out again.

So, I need to know, which one to put on my buttercream cake because I know I read somewhere about royal icing breaking down when buttercream is present? Is it true?
Which one of the figures should I use?? I just don't know, PLEASE HELP ME SO I CAN STOP FREAKING OUT....THANKS A BUNCH...

yes!!!!!!! royal is sugar based and melts in anything fat based, ie. buttercream! So glad u asked, I made this mistake myslef, my royal icing letters just melted onto the frosting

maybe thr is something u can do to prevent this since u already made it...like glue it using wet royal to wax paper and stick the wax ppr onto the cake?

Ahhhhhh, thank you sooooooo much. Okay, now I'm starting to think about this. WILL MY COLOR FLOW MELT OR BREAK DOWN TOO??

IS COLOR FLOW MIXTURE DIFFERENT FROM ROYAL ICING MIXTURE????????

no...color flow is royal icing...look at the ingredients...they should be sugar and meringue powder...

I wrote this in another thread...

Yes, grease-free utensils while you're making it, but it doesn't have to be a grease-free surface that you pipe it directly onto, nor completely dried to stop it from breaking down. (moisture is the culprit.)

There's a similar thread from a few days ago that discusses what causes royal icing to break down titled "Deciding between fondant, icing, gumpaste, and buttercream". I'll paste what I wrote below...
Here's the entire thread: http://cakecentral.com/cake-de.....html+icing

...you can apparently make royal and pipe it directly onto Crisco greased forms and pipe into cooking-sprayed foil-lined lily nails!)

If you'd like to read what others have experienced, TexasSugar says that it's caused by moisture in this thread "question about royal icing":
http://cakecentral.com/cake-de.....html+icing

and here "Royal icing decorations":
http://cakecentral.com/cake-de.....html+icing

my favorite "will piping gel break down royal icing":
http://cakecentral.com/cake-de.....html+icing

another favorite, "Royal Icing Lilies, Cooking Spray...":
http://cakecentral.com/cake-de.....html+icing

Here's the entire link:
http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-697086-royal.html+icing

I hope this helps so you can stop freakin'!!!

I have used royal icing and color flow transfers on several buttercream cakes without a problem. They have even sat overnight and still were fine. I think it depends on your buttercream. If you have a good crusting buttercream, you should be fine.

OKAY, OMG....I'M BACK TO FREAKING OUT NOW...UUGGHHHHHH

None of the articles will open, it says page not found on all

wht buttercream r u using?

I pipe royal icing lacework onto olive-oiled or Crisco'd acetate all the time. It dries. Then you can pick it off and attach it to the cake - no problems. It doesn't melt.

I have asked my cake dec. supplier how premade RI cupcake toppers go on BC-topped cupcakes, ie do they break down. The answer was NO. So long as there is no excessive moisture. I think it does better on crusted BC than a MBC.

Hope this helps.

Hi everyone, thank you so much for you're speedy responses. I eventually took a DEEP DEEP BREATHE and sat and thunk it out. Bc, I was told that the figures would breakdown, I figured that, ok, so it can't touch the BC right. So, I thought ok, I need something that can go in between the two, FONDANT, YEAH, I WILL USE FONDANT! So, I traced a silohette of the figure using the a cutout of the picture itself. This I attached to the back RI figure and placed it on my BC cake and it worked, IT WORKED, IT WORKED!! I used RI as a glue and IT WORKED.

Thank you for helping me through my panice attack, do I need a counselor, or what? Lol.

Thank you everyone

Glad it worked out for you Good troubleshooting!

Awesome! But just so you know for next time - you can absolutely use royal on buttercream. I pipe royal onto SMBC ALL THE TIME and have never had an issue. Happy caking!