Sugarveill

Decorating By oyster Updated 19 Sep 2010 , 9:12pm by bobwonderbuns

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oyster Posted 17 Aug 2010 , 6:44pm
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Hi. i was just looking at a video using sugarveil. i was thinking of purchasing some , i am a bit unsure of what you need,do you have to have special tools etc to be able to use it . i would really like to have a go with it before purchasing any tools ,i cannot see on the website if you can have say like a sample first (paying for it of course)before embarking on buying a large amount , any imfo on this icing i would appreciate it,
many thanks oyster

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sweetcakes9296 Posted 17 Aug 2010 , 11:27pm
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i have sugar veil it taste great works well with stencils. and its taste real good you will love that part. just have to watch the drying time. that is what i am working on. it really depends on the weather.

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TexasSugar Posted 18 Aug 2010 , 2:31pm
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I bought the starter kit at the convention over the weekend. I haven't had time to play with it yet, since I just got home yesterday, but I'd check it out.

The starter kit was a matt, the comb, 1lb sugarviel and the DVD on how to use it. I paid $65 or something like that for it. I thought it was a decent price for it. They have the depenser you can also get, but I was also told you can pipe with it like icing, so I skipped that. I'm more interested in using it for the ribbons and bows rather than lace, so I'm not sure how much piping I will actually do with it.

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oyster Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 8:30am
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Hi thankyou for getting back to me regarding sugarveill . i do not want to pay that much out in case i do not like or get on with it.im just going to buy the sugarveill and see what i manage to come up with
thanks again Pearl

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tinygoose Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 8:48am
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I bought some and the comb. I like using it for stencils. It's cool stuff, and tastes good, and you don't need to use a lot. I make ....hmm I think like 1/3 or less of the recipe at a time. Putty knife is also helpful with it. The hardest part is figuring out what to use it for, I'm always a little stumped by that.

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icingimages Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 11:17am
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Sugarveil is great for drapes where you would use fondant since it is much lighter than fondant. You can make beautiful bows out of it that will stay for a very long time. You can also punch it with scrapbooking punches. So whatever you do have left over, you can make some of these and refridgerate them afterwards for long periods of time.

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tripleD Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 11:46am
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I am one of those people who likes to try everything new. I love sugarveil.
it great to work with and tastes good.
I made a rebel flsg that is draped over a cake the people loved it.

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ycknits Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 12:36pm
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I just received the starter kit, which I ordered online for $49 (plus shipping.) It came wrapped in a cute dish towel :>) I won't be able to give it a try for a couple of weeks, but I'm excited to try it for drapes and bows!

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oyster Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 5:19pm
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i have ordered some . i cant wait now until it comes so i can have play with it,im thinking what i can use it for , more suggestions greatfully recieved
thanks Oyster

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TexasSugar Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 5:28pm
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The uses for it is one of the reason I went ahead and got the DVD. I figured it would show me many different things I can do with it. Not just how to mix it up and spread it out. icon_smile.gif

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KSMill Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 6:13pm
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I bought the sugarveil starter kit about 6 weeks ago and love it! I didn't buy the dispenser because I wanted to try it first to see if I like it. It's very easy to pipe through a bag but I can see where the dispenser would be useful in changing pressure and speeding up the piping process. The red scroll cake in my photos was all sugar veil designs. Have fun with it!

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Dayti Posted 25 Aug 2010 , 9:05pm
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I really want to try this - Oyster, please can you tell me where you are ordering it from? I'm asking because I ordered it direct from the Sugarveil website, the starter pack for $49, but then shipping from the US was another $41.60 on top to be delivered to Spain, so it works out really expensive! Once they emailed me with the shipping, I was in shock... I haven't accepted the order yet, might cancel if you are getting it in the UK cheaper.

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3Sisters Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 12:31pm
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tiny goose - I have to stencil 400 cookies - can you give me tips on using the sugar veil? I have the starter kit, just haven't had a chance to work with it. How long does it take to dry and once I put the cookie in a bag can it be stacked? Thanks.

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sugaah Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 1:07pm
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please expand on how to use sugarveil with a stencil and what type of mat should i use. Never considered thise things before i purchased teh $20 pound. Thanks

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Ednarooni Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 1:20pm
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Have you seen their lace mats..just beautiful!! I have seen it demo'd and it's just gorgeous..

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Peanut1027 Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 1:21pm
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I would also like to know how to use it. I've never scene it Is it a butter cream/royal icing consistency?

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KSMill Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 1:25pm
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It's sort of a marshmallow fluff consistency.

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TexasSugar Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by sugaah

please expand on how to use sugarveil with a stencil and what type of mat should i use. Never considered thise things before i purchased teh $20 pound. Thanks




Silicone matt. They do have a matt made for use with it. I *think* they said if you use another silicone matt that you may need to grease it lightly.

If you haven't see it or it's uses, you can go to http://www.sugarveil.com/

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iluvpeeks Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 4:43pm
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I purchased the starter kit also. Had no luck at all with it. I feel like I wasted money. It does taste good though.

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TexasSugar Posted 26 Aug 2010 , 4:46pm
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Have you contacted them and asked questions? There is someone on here, from IcingImages that may be able to answer some of your questions or help you find them.

They didn't have the matt at the convention, so mine is being shipped to me. I do have a different silcone one I could pull out and try it with, but I've told myself I'm not going to play with the new stuff until I get the old stuff organized. Now if only I could talk myself into cleaning and organizing.

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corajean Posted 1 Sep 2010 , 8:28pm
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For starting out with SugarVeil, you will want to purchase the starter kit. It will give you a 1 pound bag of SugarVeil, along with the comb and instructions and the Dessert Garnishes DVD. You can use a Silpat or a sheet of parchment paper to work on. With Crisco, not the spray, very lightly grease the Silpat or parchment paper before beginning to work with SugarVeil. It is important to read all the directions before starting. The DVD has lots of great information for you to begin. The most important thing is to let SugarVeil dry completely before working with. Once dried, it is a very flexible product and become lots of fun to work with!

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emilyg Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 1:26am
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Hi all,

If you have SugarVeil Icing, just dive right in. You don't need any special tools, just be sure to use the measurements of 1/3 c plus 2 Tbl. boiling water to 1 cup SugarVeil and beat for 4 minutes. If you've a hand mixer, you can mix up 1/2 or 1/3 of that recipe. Grease (with Crisco-type solid fat) a sheet of parchment paper and pipe some figure-8's, for example, or any design that is continuous. You can use a piping bag fitted with a very small 00 or 1 tip, or snip a tiny tip at the end of a parchment cone. When it's set, you can peel it from the surface and bend it around a cake or cookie (BTW a tiny bit of moisture attaches it to a cookie, 3sisters, and a flat layer of stenciled SugarVeil will completely dry on the cookie so they can be stacked).

If you do have the SugarVeil Confectionery Comb (it comes in the Starter Kit), you can use it to comb lines onto greased parchment or a greased Silpat. When set, you can tie them into knots, make tassels, or place one at the edges of a strip of SugarVeil 'fabric' to look as if you've perfectly piped it. You can also use the comb to make a Sugar "Veil" - here are the complete instructions for different things you can do with the Confectionery Comb: http://www.sugarveil.com/confectionery_icing/comb_techniques.htm

Sugaah, if you've any type of silicone mat, grease it and spread some SugarVeil out paper-thinly onto the surface. When set, you can cut out a small rectangle, for example, that you can pinch in the center, make one complete twist and form a quick bow. Or you can use papercraft punches to punch out polka dots and other shapes from the 'fabric' for decorating. Here's a previous ACD article which shows lots of different techniques: http://www.sugarveil.com/information/pdf/amcd-flowerfaces.pdf

Iluvpeeks, please share your SugarVeil questions with us, so everyone can learn from them, too - thanks much.

Here's the newest technique were doing with SugarVeil: SugarVeil Crochet. The 'Celebration Ribbons' mat has a series of loop chains at the bottom. To 'crochet', you carefully peel the SugarVeil loops from the side of the mat, and thread them one into another (like you did at the edges of a potholder when you were a kid). You can loop just just one side, or loop both sides of the loop chain for different effects. Here's a cake we done with both types of loops: http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1791172

Also, if you've any craft stencils, you can smooth SugarVeil over them onto greased parchment or a greased silicone mat, then peel the stenciled shapes when set and place onto a cake or dessert.

Hope this gives you all a few ideas to start working with SugarVeil. You can also check out the gallery on our website at www.sugarveil.com for many other ideas.

Thank you,

Michele at SugarVeil

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Annabakescakes Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 6:22am
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This is a very useful thread! I bought some Sugar Veil over a year ago and i was so excited to have it. Unfotunately I have not been able to come up with any way to use it!! I wish I would have thought of using it for my stencils. I did a 6 tier wedding cake for over 300 that was just a mess. When I stenciled it, red on white buttercream, the red seeped under the stencil in places, and I had my husband hold the stencil for me and he SLID it!! I had to scrape it off after it was stacked and re-smooth. I was late with the cake after getting no sleep.

I am thinking that if i had stenciled it on greased parchment, joined the breaks that hold the stencil together with a bit of it in a piping bag, and then waited for it to set and placed it on there my life would have been easier! Is this right? I officially HATE stencils!! But if this will work, I may attept another one.

Will it stick to a lightly crusted buttercream? I use Alpine shoterning and find that it is a very soft crust, more like a "skin". Would moisture melt the Sugar Veil?


BTW, even though my husband is not on here, I have to take a moment and tell you all that he has been an absolute GODSEND with my cakes! He can be amazing!

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emilyg Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 2:14pm
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Hi Anna,

Yes, SugarVeil would have been a good choice for your stenciling, because it lets you stencil 'off the cake'. And then connecting the isolated shapes like you mentioned, you would be able to peel the parchment (or silicone mat) from one cohesive piece, and then use a clean sheet of parchment to slide the entire piece onto your cake.

Stenciling directly onto the cake is really difficult because the stencil doesn't allow for the irregularities of a cake's surface, and anywhere it is not perfectly flat on the cake, your icing can seep beneath the stencil. Plus, since it's done directly on the cake, there's no turning back if you make a mistake. 'Off the cake' allows you work on the completely flat surface of a silicone mat or parchment, and lets you re-do the piece if you are not totally satisfied with your first effort.

If you have the Dessert Garnishes DVD, it shows how to 'roll' the stencil slowly back to allow excess SugarVeil to pull into itself and form the decorations, which have softly sculpted edges. If you don't have the DVD, look at this article for instructions on how to stencil SugarVeil: http://www.sugarveil.com/information/pdf/acdm.pdf

Moisture from an icing won't melt SugarVeil, and you can both refrigerate and freeze cakes with stenciled SugarVeil decorations. And it sticks to any surface. Here's a ganache cake from our cake gallery that has stenciled SugarVeil scrolls: http://www.sugarveil.com/gallery/sugarveil_cakes.htm The dots on the red cake next to it are also stenciled - we used a drafter's ellipse stencil for these different sized oval dots.

Michele at SugarVeil

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Annabakescakes Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 4:54pm
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WOW! I REALLY wish I had thought to try it! You are so right about there being no turning back once you start to stencil a cake, especially black or red on white buttercream, of all things! Truly frightening! Not to mention you need at least 3 to 4 hands to hold the stencil and fill it!

I love the cakes on the Sugar Veil website! So neat how they really showcase what Sugar Veil can do without being overdone. And those bows! Extraordinarily beautiful!

I just have the icing, which I haven't even opened! I would love to purchase the video and tools, but my cake budget is very limited right now, we bought a new house! I used to pump every bit of my profit into new cake toys, now I need to help pay the bills! thumbsdown.gif Some day... thumbs_up.gif

I also drool over the little vacuum tool! I had to put over 1000 fondant pearls on a cake and have told myself that if I get another cake with more than 100, I am buying it!

Thank you so much for the links and the help!

Edited to correct some spelling!

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emilyg Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 5:20pm
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Thanks for your nice note, Anna. Just mix up your SugarVeil, and just use the tools you have around the house - a plastic spreader/putty knife to smooth a thin layer, scissors to cut out strips and shapes, or just use a parchment cone to pipe endless lines and decorations.

Or you can get really artsy, mix up a few colors, and fingerpaint onto a greased silicone mat. Connect all the smudges, and try to keep everything really thin. You can peel the whole painterly piece from the mat and place it onto, or wrap it around your cake.

In fact, without any 'regulation' tools, you might be able to create a great new technique that will inspire us all! Congratulations on your new home, and keep us posted of all your SugarVeil adventures.

Michele at SugarVeil

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3Sisters Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 5:38pm
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Thank you so much for all the info. I'm very anxious to start playing with my starter kit. Could you tell me how far in advance I can make the monograms for my cookies? How would I go about storing them until it's time to put them on the cookies? It will make my life sooooooo much easier if I can have them ready well ahead of time. I'm going to have to dye the sugar veil red - any recommendations? Thanks again for all your help!

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Annabakescakes Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 5:51pm
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3sisters, if you look on the link to the PDF, you can see that you can make your Monograms on parchment paper, wait for them to set, then ROLL THEM UP!!! Isn't that cool? lol! Then stick them in an airtight container. Actually, I would feel better leaving them flat, which you can do.

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emilyg Posted 2 Sep 2010 , 6:13pm
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3sisters, like Anna said, the PDF is really helpful for instruction. Here are a few other thoughts:

Store your monograms air tight out of sunlight between sheets of parchment. In general, you've got at least several days (sometimes even a month) that SugarVeil will remain flexible. It depends upon how thick/thin the decorations are, how much air is in the air-tight environment, etc., and it's always good to do a few tests ahead of time.

For your particular situation, it might be helpful to have a rigid surface (Chinet oval platters are good, for example) underneath the parchment for stability so if the monograms do happen to dry, you can still carefully place them on the cookie, then pop them into the microwave for 20 second or so. The SugarVeil decoration will become soft again and meld into all the ridges of the cookie surface. This is how we did these lace cookies: http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/index.htm They ended up looking like the lace was piped directly onto the cookie.

As for the red - the thriftiest way would be to airbrush the set SugarVeil monograms red. If you don't have an airbrush, then be sure to use powdered color - mixed it with the dry SugarVeil before adding water. It will take a good bit of powder to get an intense red, since SugarVeil is so white-white.

Hope this is helpful to you,

Michele at SugarVeil

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lovenintheoven Posted 19 Sep 2010 , 3:02pm
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How much will the 1 lb intro tub "make". I know that is difficult to define...so let's say a 4 tiered wedding cake with each tier having stenciled scrolls, designs, etc. How much of the 1 lb would that require? Thanks!

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